August 2001
i have found a universal supercharger kit, which you can put onto any make of car, i am going to buy one for a lada riva, that should make the car interesting???
anyway, the kit is from a place called "the need for speed", and i will find out the website. Read more
Long Post - Apologies
I have a problem regarding a dodgy car dealer , even though it is a main
dealership which should have a bit more integrity in dealing with customers.
PROBLEM
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I bought a Toyota Avensis from a Toyota dealership (which for the present
time shall remain nameless) near Manchester. Granted, it is a nice looking
car.
However, since taking delivery of the vehicle on July 6th, it has been in
for repairs, at my (kindly and patient) local (unrelated) Toyota dealership
in Merseyside, under the warranty FIVE times. The car was only registered in
September last year!
The five problems, briefly have been:
- a new satellite navigation CD-rom to replace a faulty one,
- a repositioning of the satellite navigation system, since the gyroscope
was not detecting the vehicle's position accurately,
- a new clutch cover,
- a completely new clutch when the replacement cover did not rectify an
earlier problem,
- a new "fan auxilliary pulley".
Furthermore, the vehicle document, which was sent to me from Swansea states
that the vehicle was previously owned by "ERAC UK Ltd" of Hounslow. A web
search reveals this to be Enterprise Rent A Car. A quick phonecall to ERAC
yielded the information that they sell many such ex-rental vehicles through
this dealership.
When I asked about the car at the time I viewed and test-drove it, the
salesman (PM) when I enquired about the vehicle's history told me that the
car was "our own car, a demonstrator" (witnessed by a friend who was with me
at the time).
So, basically, there are two problems:
- the misrepresentation of the source of this vehicle
- the poor quality / lack of reliability of the vehicle
I think I should be entitled to some compensation for the inconvenience that
I have had due to the 5 garage visits and also for the fact that the car was
not as described - ie not a "demonstrator" vehicle.
I think that an ex-rental vehicle (which could have been treated, er, badly)
is of less value than a demonstrator (which would have been treated
respectfully, arguably).
I have offered the garage various alternatives - a monetary compensation
payment or to replace the vehicle with an identical spec car which is not an
ex-rental car.
All they have offered me is a free service next year. Alternatively I can
have my old car back and the deal cancelled. Neither of these options appeal
to me.
Frankly, the offer of a free service next year is unsatisfactory and
derisory and the offer of the return of my old car and cancel the deal is
just a joke. They have had my car for a month now. Who knows who has driven
it, and how they have driven it, in that time. If I had wanted to keep my
old Yaris, I wouldn't have "upgraded" would I?
The nice lady at Tameside Trading standards (NLTTS), who again I will not
name, says that the dealership told her that they have offered me an
extended warranty. That is yet another lie. I have been offered nothing of
the sort. The toyota has over 2 years remaining of the 3 year manufacturer's
warranty as it is.
Furthermore, one minute they apologise to NLTTS for what PM had said, and
the next minute they deny to her that he ever claimed the car was their own
car / a demonstrator vehicle. That is very inconsistent, and she agrees.
They apologised to me a fortnight ago (after 3 repair visits), when the free
service was offered, saying that PM had said that the vehicle was a
demonstrator, but that he did not mean to mislead me. Well, they cannot get
much more misleading than claim that an ex-rental car is a demonstrator.
They also claim that the faults with the Toyota were "known Toyota Avensis
faults". Should I not have been warned at time of sale? I also find it hard
to believe that all 5 problems were known faults.
Other comments. Salesman PM said that "the car will be given a service
before you take delivery". Incorrect. The service history document he
produced when I took delivery of the car was stamped "May 2001" so a service
was not required.
I have said that if the dealership do not come to some sort of satisfactory
agreement regarding some degree of monetary compensation for the
misrepresentation of the sale and the subsequent unreliability of the car.
Am I being reasonable, given the great inconvenience this car has given me?
Would I stand a reasonable chance of getting monetary compensation in the
small claims court? The car cost £11,000 and they gave me £6500 for my car.
I would only ask for £500 in compensation for the aggro I have had. The free
service is worth £100 - hardly representative of the grief I have had, is
it?
Advice please, thanks. Arguably, selling an ex-rental vehicle as a
"demonstrator" is tantamount to fraud, isn't it?
Apologies if this sounds a bit like a rant!
Toyota Owner, regretting it already! Read more
I went to uni with a John Smith, its not as common a name as you first think.... allegedly ;-)
S
My '91 Volvo 940's Cat is fine, but when it's knackered do I need to replace it?
Although my Volvo and many other cars were fitted Cats, I understand that due to delayed regulation, only cars registered after {around } 1995 need cats.
Can I replace it with a straight pipe and still pass the MoT?
Are such straight pipes available off the shelf, or would it be a custom job?
Or should I get shut before the Cat is a goosed?
Thanks
Paul Whitehead, Read more
I sympathise with the policeman in this case. But why did he need "counselling"? Soon we'll be getting reports along the lines that a ten year old kid said "boo" to a policeman and as a result the policeman needed "counselling". Anyone know of any PLCs specialising in counselling? I'd like to buy some shares in one of them.
HJ
And the connection with cars?
Doesn't sound very sympathetic to me.
Or is this a twist on what you English refer to as a backhanded compliment.
I think that if I'd knocked a kid down: I'd need counselling. And I'm a sick, sociopathic b*st*rd.
In the handbook for my Vectra 2.0DTi it gives instructions for restarting the car if the tank has become completely empty.
For the X1.7DT diesel engine it goes on to say it can be restarted by automatically bleeding the fuel system by use of the starter motor.
For the X20 DTL engine however it says. "Never let tank become empty!!"
"On account of the very high injection pressure a complicated procedure is required to bleed the system, this must be carried out by a Vauxhall Dealership".
What is this complicated procedure?? Is it bleeding at each injector as some engines require anyway or is there actually something more complicated as they say.
regards
Alvin Read more
David,
You are quite right in that the Vectra is not common rail.
However it does have the Bosch high pressure injection pump.
With regard to filling the fuel filter there is the possibility of getting dirt in but one would have difficulty starting again without slackening off the injector unions. I found this when I didn't fill it last time and it took quite a while for it to fire up.
I am careful about using the starter and only use it for a short burst and then let it rest for a while.
Thanks david
Alvin
A contact of mine is due to replace a previous cherished luxury car after more than ten years of ownership. His choice is leaning towards a new X-Type but the possibility of diesel and estate options on the Rover 75 do attract.
Have read the Car By Car breakdown and the Jaguar potentially looks the better car. I know David Lacey holds the Rover 75 in high regard, I think the diesel in particular (chipped?).
Any other thoughts on the merits of these two? He is collecting his old car after MOT/service tonight and it would be great to have some feedback for him.
Thanks,
David Read more
Hi David,
I think you and I are of more or less of similar mind when it comes to diesels. I realise I did not explain myself clearly enough. If MG Rover wish to put performance diesels on the market, like VAG and Peugeot with that gorge 406 coupe and so on, in my honest opinion Rover missed a trick with the ZR in that they could have chipped it so it was even more of an acknowledged flier. That is the rumour of what will happen relating to a possible ZT Diesel.
No I have not driven any Z models, as to do so I feel that I would have to waste a salesman's time somewhere, and that is not fair on him/her. I suppose that explains why I was a bit miffed when I actually wanted a go in a car I am seriously considering that I got the response I did, ref Rover 75 Demo thread, where your bruv gave you a good advert.
Rgds,
Stuart
Can anyone suggest any cheap products on the market to prevent rust forming? I`ve noticed slight `bubbling` around the wheel arches of my lovely escort and I don`t want this to be the beginning of the end for my beloved car. Read more
As I remember it, in the electrochemical series, zinc is below steel, so is good as a sacrificial metal. Aluminium is above steel, so the steel rusts faster when in contact with it. So, never use aluminium mesh as hole reinforcement prior to filler, use perforated zinc, though I've not seen it on sale for years. (It used to be used for ventilation holes in meat safes, pre fridge days!). It cetainly explains why all the carefully painted nuts on the crankcase of my motorbikes used to rust so fast, when the cadmium plated ones didn't.
While planning my trip I chanced to find this... now only if they had a listing of all the CAMRA pubs I would be all set !
www.itatwork.freeserve.co.uk/waypoints.htm
~Randolph Read more
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I have just filled up with this fuel. My car specs 98 ron preferred, with 95 minimum. I hope that it improves the performance and economy.
I asked the attendant and he said that the fuel is the same as the old stuff, but improved. i.e. it doesn't melt your engine (hopefully).
Fingers crossed
Jonathan Read more
Have a look at the Shell site and make your own mind up -
www.shell.com/uk-en/directory/0,4010,44845,00.html
OK so this is about a boat not a car.
Does anyone know what the boat/ship "Havengore" was?
David Read more
Thanks Ash, I wonder if anyone has actually seen this boat?
David
On 30.7 I asked for suggestions to my sluggish Rangie, having been advised by the specialist at Marting Hussingtree that the likely cause was that the timing had slipped a cog.
Other advise I had was a complete top end rebuid with a new camshaft as camshafts only last 100,000 miles
As I thought I was being had I put the problem on this page.
I received 3 replies all of which suggested the LPG system wanted tuning.
So I screwed the LPG regulator a turn and also turned the distributer a tad. Hey Presto quite a difference , at least I am now satisfied with its performance.
and saved at least 500 quid!!!!!!!
So much for specialist diagnosis
Thanks to those who took the trouble to help me out.
David Read more
David,
LPG fuelled vehicles do indeed require frequent tune-ups (especially the ones without a lambda probe)
This is more important in the early life of the system whilst all the springs and diaphragms wear in.
Sluggish performance, poor fuel economy and backfires are all indicators of a badly needed tune up.
Glad you've sorted the problem out
Rgds
David
the landcrabs are decent cars, i think its the current practical classics magazine has an article about them.