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Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - ellastonepaul

The front offside tyre of my wife's five year old Yaris is consistently losing tyre pressure. It drops from 32psi to 25-27 psi over a week. The tyre is only 50% worn. Two tyre repair shops have failed to find an leak. At a recent service the Toyota Dealer advised having the "bead resealed"; this has failed to stop the problem. The other three wheels maintain pressure.

So is the problem with the Alloy wheel? Or could it be with the tyre? If the wheel is replaced it will cost £200+ . But if it is the tyre £200 will have been wasted and a further £100 will be needed. Alternatively should we use one of those Emergency canisters that seal damaged tyres to "get you home"?

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - bathtub tom

I would have thought bubbles would be visible if the wheel was submersed in water. Did these tyre repair shops do this?

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - John F

Sometimes it takes more than one go to clean, smooth and seal the area where the tyre bead sits. It's probably a common problem for low mileage drivers when tyres are only renewed after many years. It happened to me.

Take the wheel off, pump it up to 35psi, and lay flat. Add a few drops of washing up liquid to a cup of water and paint the bead area round the rim. Foam will appear if the tyre seating is not airtight. Remember to do both sides in case both rims are corroded. If no foam appears at the rims, paint the whole tyre in case there is a tiny nail embedded. If still no foam, paint the valve. A good sandpapering plus the black goo usually does the trick.

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - gordonbennet

We have one tyre on the Subaru that lost about 5lb pressure every month last summer, i've done all you suggest John and had the wheel fully submersed, no leaks to be seen, tyre lads can't find it either...this summer it's only lost 2lb per month, i can live with it.

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - madf

Alloy corrosion is cause.

Reove tyre, remove all corrosion, reseal

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - focussed

I have just done the bead reseal job on a pair of motorcycle wheels. The bead sealant does a brilliant job. No motorcycle tyre shop would do the job as they were leaking so bad so I had to remove the old tyres and fit the new tyres myself - and balance them.

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - edlithgow

Had this with a replacement tyre (remould) on a steel wheel, replaced because the MOT tester found a nail in it

(Actually, he didn't, I was watching and told him about it because I was afraid it'd blow out and hit him in the head. Pretty noble of me I thought..)

Anyway, they had a couple of goes and couldn't get the rim to seal so they put a tube in it, after which it was fine.

I suppose now they'd make you buy a new wheel, but this was the less-bad-old-days

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - Andrew-T

It is not physically possible for a tyre to lose significant pressure and for no bubbles to be visible anywhere - assuming the whole wheel is immersed. Might it be something silly, like an untightened valve core? And check the inner bead as well as the outer ....

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

Local tyre chain could not spot a leak. They tried hard. Left me with the bubbles and it took me 1/2 hr to find the non repairable leak right on the edge of the tread. Rather subtle and low leak.

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - madf

It is not physically possible for a tyre to lose significant pressure and for no bubbles to be visible anywhere - assuming the whole wheel is immersed.

If the seal only breaks when the tyre is under stress.. eg a very slow puncture..it may not show. And if alloy wheel corrosion is the cause, raising the tyre pressure may temporarily seal the tyre to the rim better..

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - Andrew-T

<< If the seal only breaks when the tyre is under stress.. eg a very slow puncture..it may not show. And if alloy wheel corrosion is the cause, raising the tyre pressure may temporarily seal the tyre to the rim better.. >>

Even very slow punctures will show bubbles if one looks carefully when the whole wheel is put under water - which may require a large deep receptacle. I can imagine an intermittent leak which only happens when cornering, but I think it is unusual for those to seal invisibly.

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - liammcl

I would take the tyre off, drop the psi by 15psi-20psi
and using body weight, press on the tyre while it's submerged.
and turn the tyre...repeat
the leak might only show when the car's weight is on the tyre
hth
Liam

ps or long winded, jack the wheel up place a tub of water underneath (deep enough to cover the tyre and rim ) , and lower the wheel
then jack it up , turn the wheel 1/6th, drop it again
etc

Edited by liammcl on 04/08/2019 at 16:40

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - edlithgow

I would take the tyre off, drop the psi by 15psi-20psi
and using body weight, press on the tyre while it's submerged.
and turn the tyre...repeat
the leak might only show when the car's weight is on the tyre
hth
Liam

ps or long winded, jack the wheel up place a tub of water underneath (deep enough to cover the tyre and rim ) , and lower the wheel
then jack it up , turn the wheel 1/6th, drop it again
etc

Good thinking.

But suppose it only leaks on the upper (un-immersed) side and when it gets to the submerged side the weight of the car seals it?

Unlikely, perhaps, but never underestimate the Might of Murphy.

Ratchet strap through the wheel centre, round some kind of board (sand-ladder or ramp would be almost purpose built.) Paddling pool or rubber dinghy, but the tyre will float, and if you ballast it you'll alter the loadings.

Failing that, clean river or lake/loch (Scotalnd or Wales probably favorite), preferably in the winter to lower the algae count.

Good wetsuit, mask and schnorkel. Or alternatively, wimp out and remotely monitor with a camera.

But the tyre will still experience buoyant forces.

International Space Station and a perspex tank, or just a big water-filled polythene bag. Needn't be very strong.

Job done.

Phew!.

You could perhaps calibrate the ratchet strap with a strain guage, but that might be a little over the top.

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - Gabar

I've heard that tire pressure on the car door is what you want to live by.

I've heard that there is some kind of happy medium between the door listed pressure and the max pressure on the tire.Who is right? Is there an "add 10psi" or whatever guideline?I'm confused about this from everything I here people say.... USD

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Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - John F

I've heard that tire pressure on the car door is what you want to live by.

I've heard that there is some kind of happy medium between the door listed pressure and the max pressure on the tire.

Nonsense. Just follow the recommendation on the door.

Is there an "add 10psi" or whatever guideline?I'm confused about this from everything I here people say....

Don't take any notice of what 'people' say unless you can be certain of their credentials. I take very little notice of what other people say unless they are emeritus professors of a Russell group university. But many of my posts on here consist of taking issue with posters who propagate nonsense which people without technical knowledge might think is sensible.

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - RT

I've heard that tire pressure on the car door is what you want to live by.

I've heard that there is some kind of happy medium between the door listed pressure and the max pressure on the tire.

Nonsense. Just follow the recommendation on the door.

Is there an "add 10psi" or whatever guideline?I'm confused about this from everything I here people say....

Don't take any notice of what 'people' say unless you can be certain of their credentials. I take very little notice of what other people say unless they are emeritus professors of a Russell group university. But many of my posts on here consist of taking issue with posters who propagate nonsense which people without technical knowledge might think is sensible.

I think you're saying to ignore people like you !

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - Andrew-T

<< I take very little notice of what other people say unless they are emeritus professors of a Russell group university. >>

I hope you don't mean that literally when discussing motoring matters, John. My brother-in-law, now retired from an eminent Scottish university, has little clue about his vehicles, making no attempt to monitor their condition and basically watching them deteriorate.

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - edlithgow

I've heard that tire pressure on the car door is what you want to live by.

I've heard that there is some kind of happy medium between the door listed pressure and the max pressure on the tire.

Nonsense. Just follow the recommendation on the door.

Is there an "add 10psi" or whatever guideline?I'm confused about this from everything I here people say....

Don't take any notice of what 'people' say unless you can be certain of their credentials. I take very little notice of what other people say unless they are emeritus professors of a Russell group university. But many of my posts on here consist of taking issue with posters who propagate nonsense which people without technical knowledge might think is sensible.

I try and go by what makes sense. Obligatory door-score following doesn't (nothing on my door anyway, but recommended pressures are, IIRC, well South of what I use.

Its inevitably going to be a compromise between comfort, handling, fuel economy and tyre wear. If your priorities are different to what the car makers think they should be, a different pressure may suit you better, bearing in mind that you may not have OEM tyres.

I believe you can, if you can be bothered, do a certain amount of ""tuning" with chalk marks on the tyre.Must try it sometime.

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - ellastonepaul

PROBLEM SOLVED..... for £3.50! Spotted a get-you-home can of Tyre Sealant in Lidl. Decided to try "just a little squirt" ......and the pressure has stayed up for the last month. OK, I know some people are critical as it may affect any future puncture repair, but why didn't anyone suggest trying this before?!!

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - edlithgow

PROBLEM SOLVED..... for £3.50! Spotted a get-you-home can of Tyre Sealant in Lidl. Decided to try "just a little squirt" ......and the pressure has stayed up for the last month. OK, I know some people are critical as it may affect any future puncture repair, but why didn't anyone suggest trying this before?!!

You did.

In your OP.

If the man barks, why should the dog?

Toyota Yaris - Tyre pressure. - edlithgow

I've heard that tire pressure on the car door is what you want to live by.

I've heard that there is some kind of happy medium between the door listed pressure and the max pressure on the tire.

Nonsense. Just follow the recommendation on the door.

Is there an "add 10psi" or whatever guideline?I'm confused about this from everything I here people say....

Don't take any notice of what 'people' say unless you can be certain of their credentials. I take very little notice of what other people say unless they are emeritus professors of a Russell group university. But many of my posts on here consist of taking issue with posters who propagate nonsense which people without technical knowledge might think is sensible.

I try and go by what makes sense. Obligatory door-score following doesn't (nothing on my door anyway, but recommended pressures are, IIRC, well South of what I use.

Its inevitably going to be a compromise between comfort, handling, fuel economy and tyre wear. If your priorities are different to what the car makers think they should be, a different pressure may suit you better, bearing in mind that you may not have OEM tyres.

I believe you can, if you can be bothered, do a certain amount of ""tuning" with chalk marks on the tyre.Must try it sometime.

The wee tyre pressure debate above was, sadly, all wasted on what I take to be a spammer.

Semi-randomly off-topic, somewhat stupid, miss-spelled, somehow American-sounding, (not necessarily the same things), and with a link in it.