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Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - Alex Rankin

I recently had an MOT and service done on a Golf TSI. Since then I've noticed the MPG reading is not reaching as high as it was before. Is there anything that could have affected this? It was a full service with oil change and also two new tyres. Thinking tyres might need wearing in or a wrong type of oil was used?

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - RT

I recently had an MOT and service done on a Golf TSI. Since then I've noticed the MPG reading is not reaching as high as it was before. Is there anything that could have affected this? It was a full service with oil change and also two new tyres. Thinking tyres might need wearing in or a wrong type of oil was used?

The time of year, ie ambient temperature.

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - Alex Rankin

Ok, because the engine has to work a little harder?

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - RT

Ok, because the engine has to work a little harder?

Not really - it takes longer to warm up the engine, and particularly the transmission, in lower ambient temperatures so running inefficiently for longer - plus the use of the heater and lights all contribute to energy used.

Diesels are more noticeably less economical during winter because they generate less waste heat, in some cases never fully warming up all day.

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - sammy1

E10 fuel could be the cause. The government admit that the fuel is less efficient and you could loose some 2% on your typical MPG. Colder weather does not help either

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - Big John

E10 fuel could be the cause. The government admit that the fuel is less efficient and you could loose some 2% on your typical MPG. Colder weather does not help either

+1 re E10 - I've spotted a drop in mpg on my Skoda Superb and Fiat Panda when I had no option but to fill up with E10 as Super unleaded E5 petrol didn't seem to be available.

Now the fuel crisis has subsided and I've got Tesco Greenenergy 99 RON E5 back in my tank again normal service/mpg has been resumed. My 2014 1.4tsi Superb did 52mpg the other day on a long run.

It makes sense really as since about September Unleaded 95 has been changed from E5 to E10 across all brands. E10 has less calorific value compared to E5.

Tyres could also have a slight effect as well - which model was fitted and what fuel efficiency rating do they have?

Edited by Big John on 17/11/2021 at 09:31

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - thunderbird

+1 re E10 - I've spotted a drop in mpg on my Skoda Superb and Fiat Panda when I had no option but to fill up with E10 as Super unleaded E5 petrol didn't seem to be available

Since the 1st of September we have only done about 1000 miles in the Fabia but using E10 there seems to be no difference on the (accurate) dash display. Did a 40 mile round trip the other day and the dash said 58 mpg which is the same sort of figure we have always got on that trip.

Definitely not spending an extra 10 p a litre for E5 when the car is perfectly OK on E10. Why should I add about 7% to fuel costs for no benefit.

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - Big John

Since the 1st of September we have only done about 1000 miles in the Fabia but using E10 there seems to be no difference on the (accurate) dash display. Did a 40 mile round trip the other day and the dash said 58 mpg which is the same sort of figure we have always got on that trip.

Definitely not spending an extra 10 p a litre for E5 when the car is perfectly OK on E10. Why should I add about 7% to fuel costs for no benefit.

I suppose it's hard to compare unless you compare many tanks of petrol to average the figures out. I used Spritmonitor in the past but simply can't be bothered now. The difference isn't huge anyway. Panda filled up with E5 today - I'll see how it goes.

However I tend to try and buy higher octane petrol anyway after I heard a slight pinkng windows down in France with my tsi Superb when going uphill with 95 RON( can't be heard with windows up sue to sound proofing). I filled with a higher Octane petrol and up the same hill the noise had gone. To me pinking = potential damage to the engine.

Edited by Big John on 17/11/2021 at 18:40

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - sammy1

I believe that E10 petrol can contain anything up to 10% ethanol so doubt anyone can tell exactly what is in E10. Does anyone know how much the cost of the ethanol contributes to the price per litre of petrol we are paying for. It is either cheaper or dearer that neat fuel and it would just be a coincidence that it was the same price. If ethanol is 10% and it is dearer than neat fuel it may explain in part why the price of petrol is so high? If the Gov are charging fuel tax on petrol is it right that they charge the tax on the ethanol content or is it even legal?

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - edlithgow

I believe that E10 petrol can contain anything up to 10% ethanol so doubt anyone can tell exactly what is in E10. Does anyone know how much the cost of the ethanol contributes to the price per litre of petrol we are paying for. It is either cheaper or dearer that neat fuel and it would just be a coincidence that it was the same price. If ethanol is 10% and it is dearer than neat fuel it may explain in part why the price of petrol is so high? If the Gov are charging fuel tax on petrol is it right that they charge the tax on the ethanol content or is it even legal?

Its vehicle fuel, so its taxed as such.

If you were running a diesel on heating oil VED would be legally due on it, because of what it was being used for.

Vegetable oil used to be liable for VED if used in a diesel, but I believe is now exempt, probably because few people are doing it so it isn't a significant loss of revenue

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - Bolt

I believe that E10 petrol can contain anything up to 10% ethanol so doubt anyone can tell exactly what is in E10. Does anyone know how much the cost of the ethanol contributes to the price per litre of petrol we are paying for. It is either cheaper or dearer that neat fuel and it would just be a coincidence that it was the same price. If ethanol is 10% and it is dearer than neat fuel it may explain in part why the price of petrol is so high? If the Gov are charging fuel tax on petrol is it right that they charge the tax on the ethanol content or is it even legal?

Its vehicle fuel, so its taxed as such.

If you were running a diesel on heating oil VED would be legally due on it, because of what it was being used for.

Vegetable oil used to be liable for VED if used in a diesel, but I believe is now exempt, probably because few people are doing it so it isn't a significant loss of revenue

Some vans I have been behind are running on Paraffin which has become more often now, I suspect due to diesel cost, but as they don`t get caught will probably get worse, ie, more using it, pity they cannot smell it! its not the best of smells to be downwind of, used to be bad enough using heaters indoors using it....

Hearing different reports of E10 some say its not making a difference to economy or power, others say different, usually on larger engine sizes above 1.6ltr

Edited by Bolt on 18/11/2021 at 08:57

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - Andrew-T

If the Gov are charging fuel tax on petrol is it right that they charge the tax on the ethanol content or is it even legal?

They tax it if you drink it, so why not ?

Volkswagen Golf SV - Reduced fuel efficiency after service - thunderbird

However I tend to try and buy higher octane petrol anyway after I heard a slight pinkng windows down in France with my tsi Superb when going uphill with 95 RON( can't be heard with windows up sue to sound proofing). I filled with a higher Octane petrol and up the same hill the noise had gone. To me pinking = potential damage to the engine.

All the petrol cars I have bought since the early 90's have been injected and have had knock sensors that detect pinking and make adjustments to prevent damage. That is why the range of RON rating that are safe to use are quite wide. Using the Fabia as an example the recommended RON is 95 but if necessary you can go as low as 92 RON (won't happen, none sold in this country). They do tell you performance and economy will be affected, that's the knock sensor doing its job as well as the lower spec petrol.

If you can hear pinking on your Superb I would suggest that there is an issue with the electronics. The old test to check the knock sensor was whilst the engine was idling to hit the block lightly with a hammer and listen for a change in the idle as the timing was adjusted temporarily.. No idea if that would work with more modern systems.