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old HJ - barney100

I miss the time when there was a motoring pull out from HJ in the Telegraph on a weekend, the driving tips from the expert, was it Paul Ripley?, were great. The car reviews and readers problems answered were so interesting. Once HJ's section was left to fade away it was followed by me stopping getting the paper. There was so much knowledge in there to absorb and I had great faith in HJ's opinions. Would have loved his input when my 2012 black SLK's roof warped when the sun shone, Mercedes fobbed me off with all sorts of persiflage, HJ would have had good advice on that!

old HJ - John F

I miss the time when there was a motoring pull out from HJ in the Telegraph on a weekend, the driving tips from the expert,..... I had great faith in HJ's opinions.

So did I, apart from his enthusiastic support for the garage trade e.g. the persistent anachronistic advice to change the oil every 365 days no matter how few miles since the last change.

Two reasons to keep taking the SaturdayTorygraph were the motoring section and the prize crossword. The motoring section deteriorated, some of the op-ed columnists were clearly, ahem, intellectually challenged (does anyone remember the garbage written by Barbara Amiel) and with the advent of google the xword could be completed by anyone, thus minimising the chance of winning a pen. I long since abandoned it.

old HJ - madf

The motoring section deteriorated, some of the op-ed columnists were clearly, ahem, intellectually challenged (does anyone remember the garbage written by Barbara Amiel) and with the advent of google the xword could be completed by anyone, thus minimising the chance of winning a pen. I long since abandoned it.

I read the DT on line and the Comments.

(free: I used to buy the paper but it is now expensive not very good toilet paper)

It would appear Logic is no longer taught at school, and racism is rife amongst the remaining Brexit supporters who still believe - a dwindling band,

Politically the DT is useless: they back total losers, Out of touch old fossils.

The Motoring is rubbish.

Edited by madf on 23/03/2023 at 12:11

old HJ - Engineer Andy

The motoring section deteriorated, some of the op-ed columnists were clearly, ahem, intellectually challenged (does anyone remember the garbage written by Barbara Amiel) and with the advent of google the xword could be completed by anyone, thus minimising the chance of winning a pen. I long since abandoned it.

I read the DT on line and the Comments.

(free: I used to buy the paper but it is now expensive not very good toilet paper)

It would appear Logic is no longer taught at school, and racism is rife amongst the remaining Brexit supporters who still believe - a dwindling band,

Politically the DT is useless: they back total losers, Out of touch old fossils.

As opposed to all those other legacy news outlets that support great men and women doing their best for our country. Not.

As regards Brexit, it has nothing to do with the issue at hand, however given the comments, I would remind you we left the EU precisely because a majority of those who voted wanted to do so, not because they are 'racist' as you allege, which is an insult to the many millions of us who voted that way and still believe in what we wanted.

Just because our useless politicians (of all stripes) either bodged it up or have deliberately stymied the process, don't blame a newspaper's stance or millions of voters.

The Motoring is rubbish.

Like most of the paper, it was excellent up until current editor Chris Evans took over back around 2013. Whether the change of direction / tone was solely down to him, his top editorial team and/or at the behest of the (newish owners) Barclay Bros, who's to say, but the paper, and especially the Motoring section steadily decline for about 3-4 years and has done so at an increasing rate since.

But then so has the quality of all other legacy news outlets, both newspapers and television.

old HJ - Andrew-T

<< I would remind you we left the EU precisely because a majority of those who voted wanted to do so, not because they are 'racist' as you allege, which is an insult to the many millions of us who voted that way and still believe in what we wanted. >>

That sums up the whole trouble - you voted for 'what you wanted', not for what you would probably get for voting that way. It's never any good voting (in any sort of election) for an option which isn't really there.

old HJ - SLO76
Only reason why I read the paper (owned a newsagents at the time so foc) Honest John was the best motoring section in any paper by far, the rest were merely adverts and would rarely if ever criticise any brand or model, HJ was happy to and clearly allowed to show warts and all.
old HJ - FoxyJukebox
Enjoyed the old HJ Saturday very much. Agree the DT motoring section is now just a sponsored editorial. It’s the same in other weekend “broad sheets” too…endless reviews of cars costing upwards of £50k with very little journalistic added value. As for What Car and Autoexpress etc these are just 50%+ full of adverts., but if you belong to Press Reader you at least get on line access so don’t have to physically buy.