My advice is to stay away from all credit, pay any loans you have off as quickly as possible, we haven't see the depression at its worst by a long chalk yet.
Maximum budget a grand, find an unfashionable Korean or Japanese car thats been looked after, and continue to look after it, well chosen it'll go on for years.
There is little more liberating than owing nobody a bean.
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I was taught at a very young age 100% down and monthly payments of 0.
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Very sound advice from gordonbennet <edit> and Collos25. It has taken me 38 years to get debt free and I don't want anyone to remind me how much I've paid on loan interest, a good chunk of it avoidable if I had engaged my brain each time.
The interest you'd pay on financing a new or 3 year old car could well buy you a car outright. Alright not as shiny but perfectly adequate. Put the money you're not paying on the finance into a tax free savings "pot" and dip into it as and when you need to cover repairs and servicing.
Edited by oldtoffee on 30/12/2012 at 16:29
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The advice you've received is very good, but very hard to follow for one of the 'new generation', but follow it !
Don't hurry into buying something. You might expect problems with anything that you buy, but put thing right as they occur and never neglect to service the car. If you look after your machinery you generally find it looks after you.
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All sound advice, I have bought 2 brand new cars in my life and loved it dont get me wrong, but with bad credit you find it hugely expensive and not worth it.
A friend just took a finance deal on an 11 plate KA, its been in under warranty 4 times so far! Its not too cheap per month either because her credit rating wouldnt allow a cheap as chips deal.
I totally agree about running an older car on not much cash because I do it myself, buy right in the first place and you can get a cracking car for less than 1K. It costs me £35 for an oil change every 6 months and other than stuff I want to do, very little else.
Edited by countryroads on 30/12/2012 at 17:32
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Thank you everyone! Great advice!
I don't have any debts now - Christmas was all bought and paid for cash.
It's from the past that my rating was bad, but I now have a good job and can afford it.
I want a new ish car, because I need something that is reliable and has a good warranty.
I know nothing about cars and don't have anyone to help me buy something second hand. I don't want to get ripped off.
I best start reading up and keep looking.
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What budget do you have available for buying a car ?
How many years warranty would you like with the car ?
Any cars that come to mind so far that you're considering ?
What types of journey will you be using the car for mostly ?
How far to and from your place of work ? Any motorway and/or dual carriageway ?
Also you need to take into account the cost of motor insurance, VED, car maintenance cost per year etc.
If you can provide a rough breakdown of figures we should be able to help.
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What budget do you have available for buying a car ? cash would be £2000, but finance, no more that £9000
How many years warranty would you like with the car ? not sure what is on offer.
Any cars that come to mind so far that you're considering ? Kia have a good offer on Picantos. I can afford the monthly payments
What types of journey will you be using the car for mostly ? work
How far to and from your place of work ? 30 miles per day
Any motorway and/or dual carriageway ? m60 for part of the way
I don't have any no claims bonus (not driven for a long time) but was quoted £833 for a picanto, which i am happy with. I have had higher quotes on different cars though.
Other people have told me to go second hand and spend a smaller amount, but i am scared of buying a piece of junk that keeps breaking down.
i really appreciate your help, thank you
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9k with a bad credit rating your in a dream world.
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Collos - please either say something helpful or nothing at all. Caz21 is looking for help / advice from us.
Caz - I think you need to get some advice on what sort of credit if any you can get; if so how much credit and what you can afford in repayments. There are various sources of credit - bank loans, specialist loan companies, finance via car dealers etc. Watch out for the rate of interest that you'll be charged.
Once you know what you have to spend (whether credit or cash) then we can advise on the type of car to get. If you can spend less than about £2,000, then condition matters more than make or model.
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i have a bad credit rating due to my ex. Since I binned him, I have got straight with my bills and got a good job
everything is paid for in cash, i don't even have an overdraught!
but my rating won't be great for a while, while i build it up again
I can afford £200 a month to run a car - most important to me is a car that won't break down in rush hour as i will be on my own, in the dark, around Salford and I don't want a car that is unreliable.
And thank you again for your help!
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Sorry Caz, i wasn't going to post again but i have to.
You're in a marvellous position, NO DEBTs, you should be on cloud nine as i suspect a quite young person, i bet very few of your peers could say the same and would gladly swap places with you, don't be too keen to give that up for a shiny car.
Hard times really are coming, i'm glad you have a hopefully secure job, but i really do urge you to buy a car you can afford to and whilst running that save up gradually to get its replacement, again for cash you have.
A few pointers for cars, if you find someone a bit car savvy to help you look, any one of these thats in good condition and been looked after previously by preferably a mature owner will give years of good service if you find a decent trustworthy chap (gold dust) to service it well.
Mitsubishi Colt or Lancer. Honda Civic. Daihatsu Sirion. Hyundai Accent. Mazda 323. Nissan Almera. Toyota Corolla. Suzuki Swift. Notice the lack of European makers there, even though some of those cars will have been made in GB or Europe.
Best of luck in the car hunt whichever way you decide.
Edited by gordonbennet on 30/12/2012 at 23:15
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If you are set on a new car, take a look at the Hyundai i10 (same car underneath as Kia Picanto).
They are currently offering a 3 yearPCP deal on i10 Active (the right spec with some good bits and pieces) for a bit less than a basic Picanto. 1.2 engine instead of 1.0 aswell which makes all the difference on the motorway in a small car. It is more likely that you could get credit with them at the advertised rate than say VW etc. I have sold cars for both makes by the way.
If you do consider a used car as a cash purchase, I would again look at a Hyundai, maybe an Accent etc, but other suggestions as above really. I look after a Suzuki Alto which is doing very well and has only needed a battery outside normal maintenance, but it does feel tinny on the motorway...
Test drive a few options, new and used, get some firm figures down on paper in front of you, and think clearly about total costs over your ownership period...dont be pressured by a salesman, remember you can walk away, the cars look great in the showroom but thats not real life!
Edited by countryroads on 31/12/2012 at 01:36
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I'd like to reinterate what has been said here. Whatever you do don't go down the credit route if its unaffordable.
Can you, if you got a car on credit be able to repair the car if something did go wrong after the warranty has gone? Will you be able to afford the servicing? Tax, fuel etc.
It may be worth looking at something like an older Honda Civic or a Toyota Corrolla for your £2000 and run that. Look for one with a full service history thats been looked after and it'll look after you. Save the £200 a month for servicing and repairs.
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Caz, which new car dealers no you have fairly close to where you live ? Always a help should work be required to a car, either warranty or otherwise. If your car ever requires warranty work they will provide you with a courtesy car whilst the work is being carried out, similarly when the car requires servicing, sometimes they charge around £5 but that's it.
The important thing is to have a good long varied test drive to ensure you are comfortable with all aspects of the car. In particular ensure you have enough leg room to freely operate the pedals. My wife could not obtain a safe driving position in a Hyundai i20 and some models tend to suffer in this area and as such aren't suitable to purchase. Also ensure all round visibility is good enough for driving and parking the car in parking spaces. Don’t feel obligated to purchase a car after you have driven it. It’s worth test driving a few different models to get a better feel for what you find is a suitable car for our needs.
I have driven a Kia Picanto, both 1.0 and 1.2 and was pretty impressed with them, the main thing that put me off was the small boot, I needed something a little larger, otherwise a very nice car indeed, the 1.0 has a very smooth engine and should be good on fuel economy and no VED to pay. The example of the 1.2 model I drove had a very low clutch bite which would have needed adjusting as it made the car difficult to drive in traffic. On the road prices start around £7500 for the Picanto 1 5 door 1.0 engine. Prices increase after that depending what fetures you require. A Kia Picanto comes with a 7 year warranty.
For around £9000 you could get the recently updated new Ford Fiesta 1.25 60ps 3 door. For £9500, you could get a higher spec. new Ford Fiesta 1.25 Style 82ps, each with a 3 year warranty.
Alternatively a nearly new used model low mileage will be around £1000 less as per the specs above.
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Collos - please either say something helpful or nothing at all.
If you bothered to read the full string I have given good advice and so is my last statement having cleared all the debts they are about to get back into the same situation what you can afford today is not what you can afford tomorrow ie redundancy.
Why not buy membership of a good breakdown company and mobil phone that way it does not matter about breakdowns, any car is as likely to breakdown as another .
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Caz21, you can get a decent car for your £2k cash - I have never owed a penny on a car because I buy them outright with cash and/or part exchange. Get on Autotrader and have a look - £2000 will get you a 2002-2006 car, depending on engine and mileage. You're looking at the Toyota Yaris, Nissan Almera, Ka, Focus and Fiesta, and Micras. I even spotted some very nice little convertibles (Toyota MR2 and Mazda MX-5) around 10-11 years old for £2k. You can run something like that while you build your savings back up and then you've got a part-ex vehicle as well. That's how I do it anyway!
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Thank you everyone! ~Great advice again!
I am very wary of buying on finance, because it is a big commitment. I need to stick to a budget and a plan, else I could walk into a showroom and get carried away and kick myself, and that's not happening
I live near Bury, but work in Salford, so lots of car dealers around, should I have a problem.
I wish I could go for the new car, but it is a lot of money - i like having no debts and want to also try and save for a deposit for a house.
So I think it will be something like has been said up there, possibly a Kia or Hyundi
Now I have to find a dealer and get out there and get looking!
Thanks again
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