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Taxi running cost! - Oli rag

Just had a lift in a 2006 astra 1.9 diesel taxi. The driver bought it with 90k on the clock. in the past year he's put another 52k on it !

He has had a new turbo and intercooler fitted and an "electronic problem" fixed, all of this has cost him £2000 in the past year.

He then told me that it's going in thursday to have a new dmf, clutch and cambelt replaced, the cost for this lot is £800. He seemed quite happy with the running costs!

Although this car only cost him £2600, with all the repairs, hopefully it's trouble free for a while, but I couldn't help feel there must be a cheaper way for him to run a car.

What would anyone else suggest? A newer car perhaps? Petrol engine?

Forget to mention, the costs above are excluding his normal service charges.

Taxi running cost! - unthrottled

Did you notice that the DMF was on its way out? Can't imagine why the intercooler would need replacing. Maybe he's upgrading the parts, that's why he's happy to pay the price. At 50K p.a. the fuel savings with diesel are significant. 45mpg vs 35mpg saves over 300 gallons fuel/£2000.

As for some organic, fairtrade Prius-wash your mouth out! I'd send a Prius back to the rank if one came to pick me up.

Taxi running cost! - Oli rag

No I didn't notice anything, it seemed to drive fine to me. H e reckoned he was getting 40 mpg, so I was thinking that a 1.8 petrol avensis would do something around that figure, but probably without the problems.

I thought with you being a mechanical engineer, you would be in favour of recovering wasted kinetic energy. Why the prius hate?

Taxi running cost! - unthrottled

I don't really hate the Pius-it's very well engineered. It's just the bumptious nerd aura that often surrounds it.

Recovering waste energy always sounds more promising on paper than in reality. If he's only getting 40mpg with a diesel, then he'd probably get 30 with a petrol.

Taxi running cost! - daveyK_UK

40 mpg for extensive urban driving from the astra sounds ok, especially if he is carrying a load (passengers) around.

The only real benefit to choosing an Astra as a taxi must be the availability of parts, the wide range of garages with an knowledge and understanding of the car, and the relativly cheap part prices due to a large ammount of copy parts available.

Otherwise, its not particulary reliable or durable and will have more than its fair share of wear and tear items.

The 2 big local taxi's firms around these parts run fleets of diesel i30's and diesel skoda octavias. They are both likely to be more reliable, but the i30 parts prices must be on average 50% higher than the astra.

The smaller private higher firms, tend to be a real mixture, but you do notice an increasing number of the current Ford Mondeo's. I presume they must be the 2.0 and 2.2 diesels, as taxi drivers must be wise enough to avoid the 1.8 diesel like the plague (not that the 2.0 is much better).

Edited by daveyK_UK on 05/12/2012 at 13:13

Taxi running cost! - jamie745

If you're putting 50k on a car every year then high maintenance costs should be expected. I am surprised more taxi firms especially in cities don't use a Prius though, they work well in NYC and run to Millennium Falcon mileage.

Taxi running cost! - Falkirk Bairn

Buy a new car for say £15,000 - 3 yrs and 150K milesit is worth little - gauranteeed a huge depreciation cost

Buy a £2000 car, spend £2500 each year for 3 years =£7,500 in repairs and if he is lucky it may be less but certainly not £15K of repairs

Bangernomics for Taxis

Taxi running cost! - jamie745

I was in a taxi recently, an 02 plate Peugeot 406 closing in on 450k and they bought them brand new.

Edited by jamie745 on 05/12/2012 at 21:28

Taxi running cost! - Tonto1

Interesting that if you go Madrid, 80/90% of the Taxi's are Octavia diesels. Strange that Spanish taxi drivers aren't running the Seat equivalent. You do see a few Altea's and Leon's, but Skoda rule. From the limited conversations I've had, they find Skoda's far more reliable and cheaper to run - all apparently purchased from new and very few more than 4 years old. Would love to know how much they actually cost to run - suspect peanuts compared to the UK.

Taxi running cost! - Stroudie

Before I retired I spent 3 1/2 years working in Sandwell and bought a 10yr old Astra 1.6 8 valve auto in CD trim and had it converted to run on LPG.

Fabulous car and cost peanuts to run.Ran it from 62K to 165K and still not using any oil and on original gearbox.

I used to fill it up regularly at Lister Gases at lunch time, but found I had to wait longer as time went on because the Asian taxi drivers were queuing up!

Many had big Jap saloons.

An alternative to diesel.

Taxi running cost! - jamie745

I've seen a few Avensis' circa 56 plate being used as cabbies lately.

Taxi running cost! - Bilboman

Octavias have a deservedly brilliant reputation for low running costs, high mileage and reliability. Taxis have to have a six monthly MoT in Spain, which tends to weed out the less-than-robust models. (I don't see huge numbers of French marques at taxi ranks, now I think about it!) You'll see lots of Skoda Superb taxis around Spain, too. There wasn't really a SEAT equivalent to the Octavia (The Mark 2 Toledo was a saloon, and the Mark 3 was a pig-ugly notchback); taxi drivers are big fans of big hatchbacks, unlike José Público, who still believes a three box shape always signifies a superior car. I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for Mark 4 Toledo/Skoda Rapids when I fly to Barajas in a couple of weeks' time. I suspect cash-strapped taxistas will be keeping their Octavias going until the new, larger and more upmarket model comes out in a year or two.

Edited by Bilboman on 06/12/2012 at 19:35

Taxi running cost! - Avant

I would have expected to see more petrol taxis now that all new diesels have DPFs. I wonder how the DPF problem is being addressed - it may be that newer engines, like VAG's common-rail diesel, have improved DPFs that regenerate effectively without needing trips to the dealer.

Taxi running cost! - Collos25

I got into a hire cab in the UK recently the driver said he had just renewed his insurance it was over 4k and he had never made a claim in 20 years of driving.

Taxi running cost! - jamie745

I got into a hire cab in the UK recently the driver said he had just renewed his insurance it was over 4k and he had never made a claim in 20 years of driving.

Taxi insurance is bonkers here, likewise with vans.

Taxi running cost! - Happy Blue!

I would have expected to see more petrol taxis now that all new diesels have DPFs. I wonder how the DPF problem is being addressed - it may be that newer engines, like VAG's common-rail diesel, have improved DPFs that regenerate effectively without needing trips to the dealer.

In some respects taxis are not like others cars that do mainly urban runs. They do a very high mileage and therefore are used constantly and the engine and exhaust system remains hot for most of the day - unlike lots of cold starts that housewives/full time mums would do. Perhaps the reason for fewer problems with taxis than others with diesels?

Taxi running cost! - galileo

In some respects taxis are not like others cars that do mainly urban runs. They do a very high mileage and therefore are used constantly and the engine and exhaust system remains hot for most of the day - unlike lots of cold starts that housewives/full time mums would do. Perhaps the reason for fewer problems with taxis than others with diesels?

There are taxi ranks at our bus and rail stations each of which, on the average day, have up to 20 taxis sitting in the queue, engine off. I'd be surprised if their average trip exceeds 5 or 6 miles during the day, or 10 to 15 miles at night when the nightclubs chuck out. Most seem to be Avensis/Skoda/Mondeo, in about that order of popularity.

Taxi running cost! - unthrottled

They're not starting from cold though, are they? I think people have tied themselves in knots over DPF which, whilst not entirely welcome, isn't the huge problem some make it seem. Of course, the aftermarket has rushed in with a load of wonder products to solve these new problems!

Taxi running cost! - k13 wjd

around here, a good 75% of guys run skoda's - cheapest by far in terms of £/m for fuel, repairs, and planned services.



Rental cars round here are £160 a week. that covers everything apart from Fuel. tyres, tax, insurance, mot, repairs....all for £160 a week.

Unfortunatly, that means that the rental company can simply maximise profit by reducing work done on cars. My octavia did 42000 miles without seeing a service.....

Taxi running cost! - Bobbin Threadbare

Spotted a Kia Optima taxi the other day. He was on the motorway. Never seen one of those before, whether as a taxi or a regular owners' car!

Taxi running cost! - jamie745

You spotted it? Now Bobbin have you been engaging in cabspotting?

Nerd.

Taxi running cost! - Bobbin Threadbare

You spotted it? Now Bobbin have you been engaging in cabspotting?

Nerd.

I think we already established my nerdiness. I didn't take down his reg plate or anything anorak-y like that.

Taxi running cost! - jamie745

Bet theres a little book hidden in your car for taxispotting.

Taxi running cost! - unthrottled

Do you think that Mr and Mrs Bobbin loiter around taxi ranks, sharing a thermos flask and eagerly awaiting the arrival of a 51 plate Avensis 1.8vvt to complete the Toyota complement?

Taxi running cost! - jamie745

You northern folk need to fill the time somehow.

Taxi running cost! - unthrottled

Well, now that he dog racing has finished for the winter, things are a little thin on the entertainment front.