Hi,
I recently bought a three year old car from a reputable dealer that specialises in ex-fleet vehicles. At the time of the purchase the dealer wasn't in possesion of the V5 (Vehicle Registration Document) but has claimed that one has been applied for on my behalf.
Firstly, can he apply for a V5 on my behalf?
Secondly, if he can, how long would I expect to wait before the V5 arrived from the DVLA? A little over three weeks have now passed.
Kind regards,
Cyrill666
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Go to:
www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/adviceon.htm.
Look at the third para under heading Registration Doc V5.
Have a word with Stolen Vehicle Branch of your local Constab
and have engine no/chassis checked.
Assuming all then is OK back to the Garage and create for action.
They shouldn't have done it.
DVD
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Dont panic Mr Mainwaring, the garage probably applied for a new V5 when they taxed the car for you.The DVLA send out notification to the last recorded keeper telling them that somebody has applied for a V5 for their car.They have 7 days i think to object,if no objection a new V5 is issued to the person applying.If you did not give the garage an insurance certificate the garage would use their own insurance and the V5 would come back to them with their name on it,who would then send that back to DVLA with your name on it and then DVLA would issue a V5 with your name on it.As you can see this process will take a few weeks,not hours or days.
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The problem with this is, as I NOW know, is that the garage becomes another owner of the car, even if only for 24 hours. This tends to foul up the 'owner history' when selling on although I suppose a reasonable person would see what had happened and understand.
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I did it just recently and it took three weeks. The DVLA target is 6 weeks. I have done it before no problem, so long as the car is legally yours. The leasing companies get this all the time, so many V5s go missing so they will respond quickly. Don't worry about it.
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OK, thanks for everyone's comments. I'll leave it another few weeks before chasing it up.
Kind regards,
Cyrill666
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I'd heard that before. Abit of sniffing around the DVLA web site show its an anti crime measure ..:-
www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/vcrat.htm
"The law requires someone selling a vehicle to pass the relevant part of the registration document to the purchaser and notify DVLA of the change. DVLA and the police strongly recommend that prospective purchasers have sight of the V5 and physically check the details contained on it against the vehicle prior to purchase. Despite this advice, it is common practice for purchasers to acquire a vehicle without a registration document and then apply for one when re-licensing the vehicle. Under the VCRAT proposals the practice of applying for a new V5 as part of the re-licensing process is to end. In order to license a used vehicle with form V10 (or V85 for heavy goods vehicles) it will be necessary to produce the appropriate section of the registration document.
This will make it even more essential that the appropriate part of the registration document is passed on to the buyer when a vehicle is sold. It is planned to introduce this change in February 2003."
Martin
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Hi,
OK, I appreciate I should have seen the V5 before purchasing the car. The salesman did indicate that it was (currently) common for them to receive vehicles from auction without an appropriate V5 and therefore couldn't pass one straight on to me. I had arranged for my insurance details to be passed to salesman in order for them to tax the car and register the vehicle in my name prior to collection. And to the best of my knowledge that's what happened, just waiting for the V5 now.
I guess the weak link in the chain is the lease hire company for not ensuring their car goes to auction with all relevant documentation. As of February 2003 they'll have to get their act together otherwise come auction time they could be sat on a dead car for three weeks or so before being able to sell it. Either that or sell it at a knock down price for the inconvenience of the new owner having to arrange paperwork.
As an aside, I've actually been in touch with the leasing company chasing the spare key for the car (it only came with a single transponder key and those things are damned expensive fromt he dealer, £25 - £70 depending on what time of day you call it seems) - So I'm happy the car isn't dodgy in any way.
Kind regards,
Cyrill666
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I noticed British Car Auctions have just recently been told/asked by DVLA to make sure they don't just hand over the whole V5, but that they fill out the details of the new owner/trader.
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Interesting you mention that PB.
Surely BCA are not the legal owners of the vehicle so how can they fill out the details ?
The legal requirement is that the registered keeper must notify the DVLC of any changes.
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I guess they are acting as agents on behalf of the registered keeper. I bought a car in August, where they just handed over the whole thing. Buying a car a couple of weeks ago, they insisted on filling in details for the guy in front of me, and there was a memo pinned to the wall reminding staff to fill ot details. There was no V5 on the one I bought (suits me), but it was obviously found later as it arrived the other day. The red piece was missing, so I assume they sent that off with my details on it.
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