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Motorway driving made easy... - cardiffianruffian
I currently drive a Nissan Primera SX and love the comfort and security but as I'm using it mainly for two long distance drives of around 500 miles a week I was thinking of downsizing to a smaller car and saving money on petrol. However I'm confused as to fuel consumption for motorway driving. Is it worth buying say a Yaris? Or Jazz? Or is the Primera going to be near enough matching them on fuel consumption on the motorway? I cruise between 70 and 75. From what i can gather, with the supermini's their main saving grace is urban driving rather than frugality when it comes to motorways. Any advice would be welcome!
Motorway driving made easy... - doctorchris
Don't be silly, the expense of changing your Primera for a smaller car would outweigh any fuel savings for years to come.
Motorway driving made easy... - Hamsafar
Small cars are generally only more economical because you are not having to repeatedly accelerate such a mass. At constant motorway speeds, this becomes negligible, and some small engined town cars use more fuel at high speeds as the engine is running nearer flat out and much further from optimum design efficiency.

Edited by Hamsafar on 18/04/2009 at 21:05

Motorway driving made easy... - xtrailman
On safety grounds alone, forget the small car.
Motorway driving made easy... - FocusDriver
cardiffianruffian

You don't mention there's anything wrong with the Primera. They're famously long-lived, well engineered cars. Why downsize - unless you have space restrictions, I'd follow the advice of the others who've already posted much the same thing.

Annoying isn't it. That's what my local independent guy said on Weds after my 10 year-old Focus' service. "Oh I wouldn't upgrade for another two years" he said (that's in the knowledge that any replacement car would be serviced with him anyway). I've saved for the last few years and have enough now for a nice new (used, 3-year-old top of the range Focus) car and it's burning an irritating hole in my pocket!
Motorway driving made easy... - Lud
If you find the Nissan comfortable on long drives, and it isn't too thirsty, don't change. A smaller car will be a bit (or even a lot) less comfortable and the gain in lower fuel costs won't seem worth it.
Motorway driving made easy... - Altea Ego
two long motorway drives of 500 miles in a small car wil be sheer purgatory. stick with your motorway muncher - its what it was made for.
Motorway driving made easy... - cardiffianruffian
Thanks all for the advice. Looks like I'll be sticking to the trusty Nissan.
Motorway driving made easy... - oldnotbold
A good move - the Primevil can't be worth a lot, and so you won't be losing money by putting 25k a year onto it. Change the oil every 6k, and it might outlive us all!
Motorway driving made easy... - bell boy
37mpg overall with a 2.0 litre cvt over 420 miles
why have a cardboard box that may well do a few more miles mpg but give you a stinging headache
white finger
and a numb bum
i got out of my car tonight as fresh as the time i got in it and you cant do that in a city car once its been on a long journey
Motorway driving made easy... - stunorthants26
>>you cant do that in a city car once its been on a long journey <<

Sorry but thats utter tosh. I drove my Charade Northampton to Sunderland and back with an hour break in the middle with no ill effects whatsoever. I also drove non-stop from Truro to Northampton in one go again with no aches or pains.
Sitting at 75 the car does a fine job on long distance but I do have my driving position spot on and I dont have circulation issues that cause problems long distance.
Motorway driving made easy... - Avant
A lot depends on the car's gearing in top gear (as well as seat comfort). A Ford Ka (old model) is a better bet at motorway speeds than a Honda Jazz, for example.

The Charade is often forgotten when comparing superminis; it sounds as if Stu has made a shrewd choice.

I agree with others - assuming that the Primera is in good health, stick with it untill it gets unreliable or more expensive to repair than it's worth.
Motorway driving made easy... - kayks
As the current owner of a 2 litre Primera, similar to OP's, I would agree with everyone else and say "keep it". It is fantastically comfortable on motorways, and gets me 40mpg.
Motorway driving made easy... - Altea Ego
Sorry but thats utter tosh. I drove my Charade Northampton to Sunderland and back with
an hour break in the middle with no ill effects whatsoever. I also drove non-stop
from Truro to Northampton in one go again with no aches or pains.
Sitting at 75 the car does a fine job on long distance but I do
have my driving position spot on and I dont have circulation issues that cause problems
long distance.


Ok you maybe had no ill effects.

BUT

Its much more relaxing in a bigger quieter softer sprung car. I wouldnt do 500 miles mway journeys twice a week in your charade.
Motorway driving made easy... - ForumNeedsModerating
Sorry but thats utter tosh. I drove my Charade Northampton to Sunderland and back with etc etc..


Well it's not is it - it was the poster's experience & I don't know where 'circulation problems'
were mentioned? Small cars can never be big cars - it's why you don't get successful
9 stone shot putters - no matter how good their technique.
Motorway driving made easy... - daveyjp
I spent years in various Fiestas doing 15,000+ a year. They did the job, but once I could afford a larger car there was no comparison when doing longer trips.

I've just driven a Yaris and a Micra - both great at what they do, but once you get to 70 they could really do need with another gear. Both spin at about 3,000 revs, you can really hear them and they don't sound pleasant.

Our Aygo speeds along with the best of them, but 50 miles on the motorway is far enough - having to really plan every manouver to accommodate for the low power is tiring. I can do 300 in the Audi and get out feeling as though I could get back in and do another 300.
Motorway driving made easy... - Dipstick
I agree. I love our little Aygo to bits, and it will do motorway stuff happily enough.

But there is no comparison at all with my previous big car, and I have to spend a lot of time convincing myself the financial savings are worth the sacrifice. They are, but crikey I miss the last one sometimes.

Still, you cut your cloth, don't you. Sigh.
Motorway driving made easy... - Alby Back
Well, I happen to fall into the "bigger is better" camp too for long journeys. I mainly use a Mondeo estate or a Signum but occasionally I have used the Ka for a long run and while it is more than capable of doing it, the bigger cars are just better at that sort of journey.

The other consideration I would take into account is that by the law of averages, if you continue to drive high mileages, the chances of making contact with another solid object are increased. If a high speed accident were to occur, I would rather be in a larger vehicle than a small one.
Motorway driving made easy... - TheOilBurner
If a high speed accident were to occur I would rather be
in a larger vehicle than a small one.


It seems America's IIHS agree with you Humph (as do I):

tinyurl.com/cwpt6l

If one day I was unlucky enough to be smashed into by a HGV, Coach, Range Rover or whatever, I'd sooner be in a Primera than some supermini...

It may never happen, but if it did...

I was unlucky enough to be driving a Nissan Note from Stansted to the West Mids a couple of weeks ago, and it was awful. The seats were worse than rubbish, the general levels of noise too high and the effort required to keep the thing on track in buffeting side winds was just silly. Regardless of NCAP rating, I wouldn't fancy my chances in that Note if a huge beast of a 4x4 smashed into me either.

I'll be keeping my S80 a while yet.
Motorway driving made easy... - perro
It's like the question of automatic and manual gearboxes, I would always go for an autobox, even though it may cost me a few more Pfennigs to run.
Personally speaking, I don't like small cars, my Almera 1.8 is as small as I would go but - I'd rather drive the Primera any day.
Motorway driving made easy... - cardiffianruffian
Thanks once again for all the replies. And I on balance, as I said before I will think stick with a bigger car. I do need to change my primera though. It's noisy - particularly on the motorway, tyre, loose sills etc and the last MOT cost £750. I'm not a engine/car expert before anyone has a go! So, not really in the 'i'll fix it myself mode'.
With that in mind and VFM a big factor I've been looking at Ford Focus post 2004 TCDI's and Primera 4 2.2DCI and spending around £3000. As I said, it's mainly for going from Cardiff to London and back maybe a couple of times a week. Style is slightly an issue (although not much if I'm still thinking of a Primera!) what I mean is that I no longer want to drive a car that looks like a taxi.
Motorway driving made easy... - DP
You won't find much of an 04-on Focus TDCi for £3k. I tried recently and gave up.