Recently got my 2000 1.8 Mondeo serviced at a Nationwide Autocentre and was told the discs were on the verge of going under manufacturers spec, but that as the pads looked very new (got the car less than 6 months ago so assume they were changed to pass the MOT it came with) to get a little more life out of them before having both changed. But now the brakes have started to judder some, I'm going to have to get them changed. I know you are meant to get pads changed with the disc change but if the pads really are so new does anyone think I would get away with just getting new discs or is it a complete no-no? Nationwide like all chains won't do one without the other but as I know a man who would I could probably save myself in the region of 60-70 quid by doing this. Any ideas?
Cheers
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If the surface of the old discs is fine and it is simply a matter of them wearing too thin and the pads are in good condition and not contaminated then there is no issue in only changing just the discs. However before doing this you should try to acertain what is causing the judder, it could be uneven wear which would effect both the discs and pads or could be contamination of the pad friction material.
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As cheddar says, if the disc surface is fine. However, if there is so much as ripple or score mark ,this will have made the exact same marking on the brake pad(s), and as pads these days are as hard as the dics themselves, fitting 2nd hand pads to new discs will result in the new discs ending up with the exact same marks.
In the long run, it could be false economy to use the same pads on new discs.
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The pads have got to come out anyway, so the only extra charge is the cost of the pads themselves. If you have a judder that = problems. Do it all new for satisfaction, and a good feel to the brakes. The extra should only be about £40 anyway.
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worn discs sometimes have a lip around the outside of the disc which wears into you new pads and as mentioned any scoring exessive heat build up will have took its toll on those pads!! id advise if replacing to shinny new discs fit the £20.00 set of pads at least your awere of the history and will feel much safer when you step on that brake pedal!! good luck.
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The discs and pads must be changed together. If the pads have been on for 6 months then their surface will no longer be planar - it will have worn to match the surface of the old discs. Using these pads on new discs will mean that braking is initially very poor (because the contact area will be much reduced) and high spots on the pads will cause damage to the new discs.
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As (according to Sutton Auto factors) Mintex pads are £21+VAt, and Delphi discs £27 /pair, you may as well get the pads too, as the pads will need to be removed to fit the discs, the labour should be the same.
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As (according to Sutton Auto factors) Mintex pads are £21+VAt, and Delphi discs £27 /pair, >>
Surely £27 a disc, not a pair, also I guess that is for Mk II.
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No, £13.44 each + VAT.
I have no idea about the Mk, but it's 00> on
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That's very cheap, almost too cheap, I paid nearly £60 inc for a pair of discs from Ford dealer and that was with discount, list price was over £40 each plus vat.
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That's very cheap, almost too cheap,
Cheddar you will find that all that has happened here is that the middle man has been cut out and they have not been put in a ford parts box ,Delphi-Lockheed make original equipment for many makes including ford ,maybe yours even came from the same factory
you were robbed :<)
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the middle man has been cut out
Possibly.
Delphi-Lockheed make original equipment for many makes including ford ,
I know though IIRC the orig equip is Bosch.
maybe yours even came from the same factory
Possibly
you were robbed :<)
Possibly, or the web price is an error.
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Possibly, or the web price is an error.
No those prices are about right - about £15 for a Delphi disc.
TBH, Mintex pads and Delphi discs are the way to go - they are very good. I always get Mintex whenever possible - never ever had a problem with them in 20+ years of using them.
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>>>TBH, Mintex pads and Delphi discs are the way to go - they are very good. I always get Mintex whenever >>>possible - never ever had a problem with them in 20+ years of using them.
Could you please tell me where I can buy Delphi brake pads in the Derby area. I have looked on the Delphi website and it gives no information. In fact it is a rather poor website.
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Well, I don't know Derby, but www.partsdirect.co.uk are located there - so maybe try them. Or ring round some other local factors out of Yellow Pages.
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That's very cheap, almost too cheap, I paid nearly £60 inc for a pair of discs from Ford dealer and that was with discount, list price was over £40 each plus vat.
£40+VAT for a Mondeo disc sounds too high, unless they have put prices up recently.
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The markup is huge...13 years ago, I worked for a clutch manufacturer. Each 3 piece kit cost on average £17.50 to make in parts, wages, packaging etc.., these were then put into various maker's packaging and sold retail for amounts that varied from £70-£300. Ferodo always supplied their own linings for the ones in their branded boxes, that was the only difference.
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£40+VAT for a Mondeo disc sounds too high, unless they have put prices up recently.
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Found the receipt, list price per disc £42.18 + vat discounted to £25.31 + vat. Pads list £40.18 discounted to £26.12 + vat.
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Cheap parts is the reason to buy a Ford?, Escort discs were £11 + vat at Partco, not replaced the Mondeos yet
Pads were around a tenner +vat
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I paid £18 inc vat for a set of four Delphi pads for my mk2 Mondeo from the local factors a few months back. Discs didn't need replacing so I don't know the cost of them.
A pair of Delphi discs for the Fiesta were about £30 I think.
Cheers
DP
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You can buy a set of pads and discs on Ebay for £30 plus postage from a reputable firm in Dewsbury why skimp.
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Ford Charge £200 for a pad and disc change!!!!!!
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For what it's worth, this is what I paid last month to my trusty local independent chap for front brakes on my mk2 Mondeo:
Brake pads - £17.74
Discs - £38.87
.5L brake fluid - £1.20
Labour (1.5 hrs) [defined as 'strip out and renew front brake pads and discs, bleed brakes] - £41.25
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For what it's worth, this is what I paid last month
Sorry, I should have added vat to that.
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Ford Charge £200 for a pad and disc change!!!!!!
I was quoted £160.
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