Looking through bmw website.
they are quoting for a 330ci se between
Extra-urban (mpg) 40.9 (40.4)
Combined (mpg) 31.0 (29.4)
figures in brackets are for an auto
and a 320ci se
Extra-urban (mpg) 40.9 (38.7)
Combined (mpg) 31.7 (30.1)
so between a 2.2 and a 3 litre, there is only 1 mpg in it?
so if i had a 330ci se auto
i would have the same fuel consumption as a 2.2 manual?
surely this isnt right?
any idea's people?
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There seems to be something amiss somewhere.
Anyway, it's all fictional. My 330Ci Sport gets 25mpg on a life that is about one third urban, one third motorways, and one third country lanes (wheeeeee!!!!!!!)
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so between a 2.2 and a 3 litre, there is only 1 mpg in it? so if i had a 330ci se auto i would have the same fuel consumption as a 2.2 manual? surely this isnt right?
I think you mean the other way round, 2.2 Auto mpg = 3.0 manual mpg?
This is not uncommon - when the 2.0 & 2.5 6cyl engines were introduced in the E36 the "real world" mpg figures were very similar, though the power dirrence was quite substantial -150bhp vs 193bhp.
IMO the 3.0 engine (M54?) engine is a gem - it's evolved gradually from the 2.5 (M50?) engine introduced in the E34 5 and E36 3 series in the early '90s which was enlarged to 2.8. Though the 3.0 version has had much more mods than just a larger bore/stroke than the 2.8. They all had that enviable combination of high power output and good fuel consumption.
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They all had that enviable combination of high power output and good fuel consumption.
And an utterly fantastic soundtrack at 6000rpm!
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I can confirm the fuel efficiency figures of the 3.0 litre engines are almost as good as the 2.2 with vastly superior performance.
My son has a 2003 E39 530i Sport manual that regularly returns 34 mpg at an 80 mph motorway cruise and is averaging 31 mpg overall, which for a 3 litre engine is absolutely astonishing when you consider a 1.6 Focus would struggle to better that sort of economy.
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My dads 325i struggles to make 22 mpg in mixed driving. But that does involve a lot of 10 minute journeys to work, and he's not exactly a sedate driver at the best of times so that probably explains it. But he didn't buy it for the economy.
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Can't comment on petrol engines, but the diesels do vary depending on driving styles. The 330d was perfectly happy being pottered around like a 1.4 hatch and returned high mpg figs. But show it a decent country A class and that was it !
Perfectly summed up above as "country lanes (wheeeeee!!!!!!!)"
This gives a :-) feeling but the mpg is a little bit :-( but who cares ? you can't line your box with it after all.
Pastime: using a 5 to straighten the bendy bits.
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all the figures are taken from
www.bmw.co.uk
so i cant understand they only lose around 1 -2 mpg for the diffenece between man & auto.
usually auto can sap 25% of mpg.
tch, i dunno.
again, main reason is i want one.
as long as work keep paying me 18ppmile i can cover the cost of fuel.
but i better not tell swmbo. ;-(
she would find the extra £400 a month for a 50mpg car to spend on something !
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....so i cant understand they only lose around 1 -2 mpg for the diffenece between man & auto. usually auto can sap 25% of mpg. tch, i dunno.
The auto will certainly lower mpg around town but on the motorway/A roads etc the (usually) higher gearing will help the auto achieve similar or better mpg figures.
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Having owned 530iSE, and a couple of 3 series cars what i found is that all six cylinder engine consumptions are very similar.
Look at the CO2 emssions (the difference beween the 2.2 and 3.0 is less than 5%), a good indicator of fuel consumption.
In fact, in real life the bigger engined cars are more economical. But people just would not beleive it - the plus side is that the bigger engined cars depreciate more quickly - the minus is when you have to sell a 3 litre car.
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Look at the CO2 emssions (the difference beween the 2.2 and 3.0 is less than 5%), a good indicator of fuel consumption.
It's more than 'a good indicator' - the quoted fuel consumption figures that manufacturers give are not measured at all, they're calculated from the emissions figure.
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the diesels do vary depending on driving styles
Very true,
I get high fifties, even 60 mpg from my 320d if I am cuising at around 60 mph under motorway conditions.
Between home and work (5 miles, 'urban') I get 42-44 mph.
Oz (as was)
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