Can you be charged for drink driving and not be in the car? (lawtonslaw.co.uk)

I agree with all of the above but, imagine you injured or even killed somebody through drink driving, you have to live with that for the rest of your life…NEVER drink and drive, there is NO excuse…

I live North of Hadrians' Wall, but never been across the border since their new limits were enacted.

I never drive after any alcoholic consumption whatsoever in the same day, but wouldn't risk the next day's reading, so stay south of the border (not down Mexico way, for any older crooners!!!)

Why not just say x pints of ale, x tots of spirit or x glasses of wine?

Because firstly, alcohol is a drug, not a drink. The dose varies greatly in the various pints, tots and glasses of the various diluents. Secondly, it is distributed fairly equally throughout body tissues, so the concentration in the brain of a slim eight stone person will be very different from that in an obese sixteen stone adult. Thirdly, it is metabolised at roughly one unit per hour - faster on on an empty stomach, slower with food. The EU limit seems very fair in that it allows a glass or two of wine or a pint of ale to accompany a meal out. The UK limit is absurdly generous.

For someone like me milligrams and micrograms may as well be a species of insect. You fossil..there I've saved someone the trouble of writing it. Why not just say x pints of ale, x tots of spirit or x glasses of wine? Better still try not to have a drink at all if you are taking the car, x glasses of Diet Coke is the best bet.

You would need to list it depending on the strength of the beer/spirit/wine etc as well - the list would go on for along while.

For someone like me milligrams and micrograms may as well be a species of insect.

I have been trying to work out just what 'someone like me' might mean. Is there a genuine difficulty in coming to terms with different units, or a stubborn refusal to change one's ways, or something else ? Most of us learnt the difference between gallons and litres, because we had to ?

I don't condone drink driving at all but there should be a sliding scale for those who do it. There is a massive difference between those who are slightly over the limit to those who drive whilst absolutely hammered and who have no regard for the law or any other road user. And it's the latter, not the former who are the real danger on the road.

Surely it already exists. Those massively over the limit get a longer ban a bigger fine.

And don't forget that the limit is the limit and not an arbitrary figure.

I don't condone drink driving at all but there should be a sliding scale for those who do it. There is a massive difference between those who are slightly over the limit to those who drive whilst absolutely hammered and who have no regard for the law or any other road user. And it's the latter, not the former who are the real danger on the road.

If you're just over the limit, you get a driving ban, if you're just under, you're clear. So, yes, there should be a sliding scale. The existing limits should remain, with the same penalties, but there should also be a lower limit, set at half the level of alcohol, carrying 6 penalty points.