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Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - mcb100
There seems to be a bit of a Suzuki fan club on here, so here’s the new Swift. Unveiled today.

www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/suzuki-swift

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - nellyjak

It will be a good car no doubt..but visually just the same as so many others now.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - gordonbennet

My fine wifey was an admirer of the previous models, that admiration has come to an abrupt end with one look at this bland blob, can't say as i find anything remotely interesting or attractive about the thing either.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - badbusdriver

Not a looker is it?

The fact that its proportions look pretty much the same, and it using the same 1.2 Dualjet with MHEV suggests that it is very much the same car underneath. They (designers) seem to just have aimed to differentiate it as much as possible (to make potential buyers think it is all new) without stopping to consider whether it works aesthetically!.

But lets face it, it wouldn't be the first time a facelift (if that's what it actually is) has ruined the appearance of a good looking car!

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - mcb100
I have seen and sat in it, and, in fairness, it’s much better looking in the metal.
Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - catsdad

According to Suzuki’s website it’s 89 bhp with 12-13 secs 0-60 time and costs up to over 21k. I think this is priced and performs much like the Ignis which we had as a courtesy car when the Vitara was having its snags rectified. It was fine around town but gutless on the motorway.

Hopefully they will produce a Sport model but meantime it’s a city car.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - Oli rag

Don’t think it’s using the same engine as noted by BBD above, as the article I read said that it’s a new 1.2 with 3 cylinders.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - badbusdriver

Don’t think it’s using the same engine as noted by BBD above, as the article I read said that it’s a new 1.2 with 3 cylinders.

Right enough, I didn't read the article properly!

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - Ethan Edwards

Great shame the one litre turbo is no more. It suited the Swift. I guess it took sales away from the 1.4t Sport. 90% of the performance for a lot less money.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - Tester

£21k for a slug? The world has gone mad! That level of 'performance' would take me back to our old Hyundai i10 1.2, which was a good car in many respects but regarded pressure on the accelerator as a request rather than an instruction. Then again, it cost less than half what this new Suzuki is going for.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - badbusdriver

£21k for a slug? The world has gone mad! That level of 'performance' would take me back to our old Hyundai i10 1.2, which was a good car in many respects but regarded pressure on the accelerator as a request rather than an instruction.

Indeed, that a car with acceleration figures roughly equivalent to a Vauxhall Nova 1.3 SR, or an MG Metro (non turbo) is now considered as being a slug!.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - Adampr

£21k for a slug? The world has gone mad! That level of 'performance' would take me back to our old Hyundai i10 1.2, which was a good car in many respects but regarded pressure on the accelerator as a request rather than an instruction.

Indeed, that a car with acceleration figures roughly equivalent to a Vauxhall Nova 1.3 SR, or an MG Metro (non turbo) is now considered as being a slug!.

I'm not convinced that the Swift on the Suzuki website is the new one. It's impossible to tell, of course, as they look largely identical.

The £21k Swift is an SZ5, apparently doing 0-60 in over 12 seconds. I'm pretty sure the Metro and Nova were both under 11.

Its hard to imagine who's going to buy the new Swift. Heart points towards something a bit livelier with some kind of visual identity, head points towards something else Japanese or Korean with a big warranty. They should focus on the sport and maybe the 4wd drive (all those farmers must have killed their Justys by now) and not even bother importing all the granny wagons.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - Xileno

It certainly looks like it fell out of the ugly tree and banged its head on every branch on the way down. Maybe an interesting subject for another thread - where the facelift model looks worse then the original. Renault did it with the Laguna. All opinion of course...

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - badbusdriver

The £21k Swift is an SZ5, apparently doing 0-60 in over 12 seconds. I'm pretty sure the Metro and Nova were both under 11.

The figures I have say 11.4 for the Metro, 11.7 for the Nova, and 12.3 for the Swift.

But OK, here is another. The original Mini Cooper did it in about 13

Not saying the Swift is that fast, but (IMO) its a long way from being a slug. My old Caddy van was about 20 seconds to 60 (unladen!), and a Nissan Serena 2.0 diesel would take about 32!

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - bathtub tom

These figures are largely theoretical. How often do you give it full throttle up to the rev limiter (or valve bounce as it used to be). I confess I do only occasionaly nowadays. As long as the thing will cruise at the NSL (or as far over it as you want).

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - John F

These figures are largely theoretical. How often do you give it full throttle up to the rev limiter (or valve bounce as it used to be).

Probably about once a month, always when thoroughly warmed up, usually on an uphill stretch of dual carriageway from Milton Keynes towards Olney. Autobox ensures fluff-free up-changes at the rev limit. I've always done this, as I think it helps to avoid sludging and carbon build up. If I didn't, I doubt if our Peugeot 2008's 1.2 engine would ever exceed 2600 rpm. Most of the time it's around a mere 2000 rpm.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - bathtub tom

an uphill stretch of dual carriageway from Milton Keynes towards Olney.

Chichely hill? I know it well and usually give mine a work-out there.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - gordonbennet

an uphill stretch of dual carriageway from Milton Keynes towards Olney.

Chichely hill? I know it well and usually give mine a work-out there.

I always think that would be a excellent site for plods radar to set up at the top of the hill, sometimes have a break (well did before they decided to shut the link rd from jct 14 for 12 months) in the layby on the Olney bound side and cars regularly go past well into 3 figure speeds.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - mcb100
‘ I'm not convinced that the Swift on the Suzuki website is the new one. It's impossible to tell, of course, as they look largely identical.’

Suzuki GB’s website is still showing the current car.
Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - Engineer Andy

I personally preferred the exterior styling of the two 2005 - 17 models where the rear end of the car wasn't so frog-looking as the 2017-23 model, which is rather like the Micra K12 / early 2000s Megane / last VW Scirocco.

The front of the 2017-23 model, especially the headlamps, is better.

Never a particular fan of the interior (dash) though, as with many Suzukis - very cheapo-looking 1980s-style hard plastics.

Odd how the new one will apparently have a 4x4 version (who on earth will buy that?) but no Sport version on the cars, which to me was the only reason why I'd ever consider buying one, as there are better offerings elsewhere for 'standard' cars, especially as regards styling, performance and ride quality.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - mcb100
‘ Odd how the new one will apparently have a 4x4 version (who on earth will buy that?) but no Sport version on the cars, which to me was the only reason why I'd ever consider buying one, as there are better offerings elsewhere for 'standard' cars, especially as regards styling, performance and ride quality.’

There’s been a Swift 4x4 for sale in the UK before. Maybe not as relevant to us as it is to those with a more reliable snowfall.

Swift Sport is sold, in the UK at least, as a standalone model. It arrived after the launch of the current generation car. I’ve no information, but I’d be surprised if we don’t get a Sport version of the new car in due course. The current one is good fun to drive.
Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - Engineer Andy
‘ Odd how the new one will apparently have a 4x4 version (who on earth will buy that?) but no Sport version on the cars, which to me was the only reason why I'd ever consider buying one, as there are better offerings elsewhere for 'standard' cars, especially as regards styling, performance and ride quality.’ There’s been a Swift 4x4 for sale in the UK before. Maybe not as relevant to us as it is to those with a more reliable snowfall. Swift Sport is sold, in the UK at least, as a standalone model. It arrived after the launch of the current generation car. I’ve no information, but I’d be surprised if we don’t get a Sport version of the new car in due course. The current one is good fun to drive.

Can't see a 4x4 like that ever being sold in more than a handful of units, really anywhere. Rather like the Subaru Justy.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - mcb100
I’ve seen a few, so they must be worth selling.
If you’re following one, they’re easy to spot as the inner ends of the rear drive shafts are visible below the bottom of the bumper.
There are currently 57 used one for sale on Autotrader.

Edited by mcb100 on 08/12/2023 at 19:13

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - SLO76
Love the Swift, alway a good drive. Cheap to own, generally very reliable and cute. Only tiny boot spoils the show. Would I pay £20k or so for one? No, because I’m not mad. Buy it used, once the trade has corrected the value.
Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - badbusdriver

But be honest SLO, are there any new cars who's new price you don't think mad? ;-)

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - SLO76

But be honest SLO, are there any new cars who's new price you don't think mad? ;-)

No, the world has gone mad!
Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - skidpan
Love the Swift, alway a good drive. Cheap to own, generally very reliable and cute. Only tiny boot spoils the show. Would I pay £20k or so for one? No, because I’m not mad. Buy it used, once the trade has corrected the value.

Even used Suzuki prices are mad. Consider the Celerio the wifes Uncle had.

Bought in August 2019, new price was approx. £8500 (inc metallic) but that was academic since no new cars were available (car had just been withdrawn) but plenty of pre-reg ones. We picked up a late December 2018 car, 9 miles with metallic for £6995 drive away inc first service, bargain.

Resale was not a consideration but when we sold it in October 2023 (uncle lost his license due to dementia but he had already stopped since he could not walk to his garage) we got £5100 for the dealer we bought it from.

That is a loss of about 40% from new over almost 5 years which was way better than I have ever experienced. Similar cars were on the forecourt for about £7000, pretty much what we paid 4 years earlier.

The current market is still crazy, how is selling a 5 year old car for what it cost 4 years ago "corrected" value?

Great for us but I feel sorry for the new owners, when values are corrected they will have to take a huge hit when they sell.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - John F

Even used Suzuki prices are mad.....

Bought in August 2019, new price was approx. £8500 (inc metallic) but that was

The current market is still crazy, how is selling a 5 year old car for what it cost 4 years ago "corrected" value?

As I've mentioned in the past, it's called INFLATION! Those old enough to remember buying and selling things in the 1970s will understand.

Back in 1972 I sunk most of what I had in a wreck of a Jaguar XK120, intending to restore it. It cost £350 pounds, about half the price of a new Mini. I never got round to it and sold it for around £2000 in 1981. Sounds good, but still nowhere near the price of a new Mini. (It went towards my TR7) I also remember buying a rusty old Triumph 1300 for £280 and selling it a year later for £285. Back in the 70's this was an actual loss. Future historians will look back at the reign of QE2 and remark upon the unprecedented massive debasement of our currency - AFAIK greater than during any monarchy in English history.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - skidpan

As I've mentioned in the past, it's called INFLATION! Those old enough to remember buying and selling things in the 1970s will understand.

Well aware of inflation, I was born in the 50's.

The inflation we have had since Covid is nothing compared to what we had in the 70's and 80's. I remember in the early to mid 70's Ford had 4 price rises a year of about 5% a time, that is getting on for 22% a year.

Dad bought a new 2000cc Cortina in 1972, cost about £1200. He replaced it in in 1975 with a new 1600cc Avenger which cost close to £2000. Fortunately we have not seen price rises like those. If we had a new car such as a cooking Golf TSi 1.4 (£24500 in late 2020) would cost now cost £44500, it doesn't, the retail is about £30,000. £5,500 is still a big increase (about 22% over 3 years) but I bet dad would have been happier in the 70 with that %age.

But back in those times a nail of a 10 year old car sold for what a nail of a 10 year old car should, about £100 or 10% of new. 10 year old run of the mill cars (such as the Golf) are currently way more than 10% of new which is totally barmy. Instead of £3000 they can be found between £6500 and £14000. But at least they are in better condition than 10 year old cars of the past.

Suzuki Swift - New Suzuki Swift - Engineer Andy
Love the Swift, alway a good drive. Cheap to own, generally very reliable and cute. Only tiny boot spoils the show. Would I pay £20k or so for one? No, because I’m not mad. Buy it used, once the trade has corrected the value.

Even used Suzuki prices are mad. Consider the Celerio the wifes Uncle had.

Bought in August 2019, new price was approx. £8500 (inc metallic) but that was academic since no new cars were available (car had just been withdrawn) but plenty of pre-reg ones. We picked up a late December 2018 car, 9 miles with metallic for £6995 drive away inc first service, bargain.

Resale was not a consideration but when we sold it in October 2023 (uncle lost his license due to dementia but he had already stopped since he could not walk to his garage) we got £5100 for the dealer we bought it from.

That is a loss of about 40% from new over almost 5 years which was way better than I have ever experienced. Similar cars were on the forecourt for about £7000, pretty much what we paid 4 years earlier.

The current market is still crazy, how is selling a 5 year old car for what it cost 4 years ago "corrected" value?

Great for us but I feel sorry for the new owners, when values are corrected they will have to take a huge hit when they sell.

Indeed - the small / basic end of the used market, especially older cars that are ULEZ compliant, has gone nuts since the start of the Pandemic. Whilst the average second hand price of cars has jumped by about 30% (though now starting to reduce again), this sort of car has often jumped in price by 100% from the historical norm, maybe more.

My dad got £1200 in px for his 08 plate near base level Fiesta 1.25 around a year ago, the only problem was he paid much more for its replacement, so he was probably £3k-5k out of pocket compared to normal times.

I suppose that such a lack of supply will have a huge knock effect down the line, especially as inflationary pressures have had such a huge impact on most people's finances of late just about everywhere in the Western world.