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Any - Lease or Buy - J0HNuk

I bought my Focus two years ago when it was two years old. I've gone off it, and want a change. According to a certain car buyer that give you a valuation, It's worth £10k.
I paid nearly £17,000 for it. I've done average miles in two years. So, give or take, it's cost me nearly £7k to have a car two years.
I can (I think) lease one for that money and it'll be brand new.
Would it make sense to lease?
I realise that I bought at a bad time, prices were high. . but I can buy a second hand Golf for £17k and lose up to £3,500 a year, or spend £3,500 a year on a new Gold (or Mazda etc).
Am I missing something? What are your thought please?

Any - Lease or Buy - _

Look at the initial payment as well as the cost of a lease

example below

personalleasing.arval.co.uk

plus insurance costs.

or

www.moneyshake.com/moneysupermarket/vehicles/92436...l

Edited by _ORB_ on 03/08/2023 at 19:38

Any - Lease or Buy - Adampr

I would.be amazed if you can lease something for £300 a month without paying a big deposit.

Any - Lease or Buy - _

the examples from 2 lease companies are £1800 ish initial payment £297 month,

There are cars available depending on what tou want for less.

use the 2nd link and put in your criteria,

www.moneyshake.com/moneysupermarket/vehicles/10139...l

Cupra leon. Golf GTI in drag?

Initial payment £2,249.10 (9 months) £249 month 36 months

Edited by _ORB_ on 03/08/2023 at 20:08

Any - Lease or Buy - badbusdriver

I use LeaseLoco when I want to check out lease prices. Just had a look and you can get a Kia Ceed Sportwagon 1.5t for £170 per month with a £1.5k initial payment (5k miles per annum, 2 year lease). Seems a decent deal?

If you fancy electric you can get an Ora Funky Cat (48kWh) for just under £200 per month with a just under £1.8k initial payment (5k miles per annum)

Any - Lease or Buy - alan1302

I use LeaseLoco when I want to check out lease prices. Just had a look and you can get a Kia Ceed Sportwagon 1.5t for £170 per month with a £1.5k initial payment (5k miles per annum, 2 year lease). Seems a decent deal?

If you fancy electric you can get an Ora Funky Cat (48kWh) for just under £200 per month with a just under £1.8k initial payment (5k miles per annum)

Do you ever get lease deals that a decent but allow for higher mileages - we do around 20k a year so a the usual 5k would not work well at all.

Any - Lease or Buy - catsdad

I can’t comment on them either way as a company but Ling’s Cars website gives prices for miles up to 20k a year on some cars. In a few cases you need to contact them for a price but it’s a starting point.

Going back to the OP’s maths it makes sense to consider leasing but it’s not looking back that counts. It’s the future of the car market you need a crystal ball to predict. For what’s worth my then one year old Golf cost me £15k just pre Covid. Last time I checked the sites were offering £12k so it’s lost only £3k in 4 years. Dealers still ask up to the £15k I paid. Very different experience then based on timing.

Edited by catsdad on 04/08/2023 at 05:12

Any - Lease or Buy - badbusdriver

I use LeaseLoco when I want to check out lease prices. Just had a look and you can get a Kia Ceed Sportwagon 1.5t for £170 per month with a £1.5k initial payment (5k miles per annum, 2 year lease). Seems a decent deal?

If you fancy electric you can get an Ora Funky Cat (48kWh) for just under £200 per month with a just under £1.8k initial payment (5k miles per annum)

Do you ever get lease deals that a decent but allow for higher mileages - we do around 20k a year so a the usual 5k would not work well at all.

Absolutely, you can adjust your own preferences for mileage, monthly payment, initial payment, lease duration, etc.

But going for a 20k milage allowance does make quite a difference to the overall cost. Here are a couple of the more affordable available:

Skoda Scala 1.0TSI 95 SE Technology, £260 per month with an initial payment of £1550 (3 year term)

Suzuki S-Cross 1.4 Boosterjet (MHEV), £290 per month with an initial payment of just over £1.7k (2 year term)

MG HS 1.5t SE, £340 per month with an initial payment of just over £2k (4 year term)

Kia Sportage 1.6t 2, £360 per month with an initial payment of just under £2.2k (4 year term)

Any - Lease or Buy - John F

Am I missing something? What are your thought please?

Assuming your 'average mileage' is the UK average of around 7,000 miles a year, leasing a mundane car at a cost of around four grand a year makes little financial sense, unless having a virtually new one all the time is important.

I'm an example of a low mileage driver (around 5000 miles p.a., fewer recently) who likes nice cars but refuses to accept depreciation/ownership cost of more than a few hundred pounds a year, let alone several thousand. Since 1980 I have bought only four cars for myself (TR7, Audis 100 2.0E; A6 2.8SE; A8 W12 sport quattro). Total cost £27650. Repair bills v few. I still have two of them. Quality is important, age and fuel consumption immaterial. Ownership cost - £643 p.a....steadily decreasing year on year as I have no intention of replacing them.

But if I had to drive 20,000 miles a year I would look for a used low mileage EV to buy. It has been an astonishing feat of the motor and financial industry to successfully persuade people that it is a perfectly normal requirement to indefinitely incur a monthly direct debit of several hundred pounds out of often hard earned income for something with such a transient lifespan of caretakership.

Any - Lease or Buy - sammy1

I would keep the Focus and even out the losses. Changing cars frequently is a mugs game and leasing companies are not charities

Any - Lease or Buy - madf

Changing cars on a whim is great for the seller.

From a private owner's viewpoint it is financial innumeracy.

But if you have money to burn...

Any - Lease or Buy - J0HNuk

Thank you everybody. I've realised that just because I've 'lost' quite a bit in depreciation, it doesn't mean I have to spend that much every year.

I'm lowering my sights (see other thread!)

@John F I've spent much more than you on cars in 6 years than you have since 1980.

Puts things into perspective.