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I only really watched the conclusion as I don't have the attention span for long videos. It seems like he was saying it's good, but expensive and has annoying 'safety' features.
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I only really watched the conclusion as I don't have the attention span for long videos. It seems like he was saying it's good, but expensive and has annoying 'safety' features.
I'd say the those so-called 'safety features' were bordering on damgerous. This issue (generally with modern cars and especially why I'm against any adoption of autonymous vehicles yet) has been a bugbear of mine for ages now, because most of them seemingly cannot cope easily with anything other than driving on a motorway, and especially not roads in the countryside in the UK.
Many (like the annoying voice telling him to pay attention when all he's done is adjusting the radio something you could do without taking your eyes from forward and using tactile buttons and knobs on older cars like mine) are just ridiculous.
The car certainly has character - reminding me of a cross between the latest Pug 208, early-mid 2000s Nissan Micra, Fiat 500, Mini and those 'Porsche inspired' headlight cluster. Nice chunky (decent sidewall height) tyres too, which seem to give a reasonable level of ride comfort over the bumps, though better for the non-spitied driver.
I was less impressed with the ergonomics, practicality and some design issues, like that lack of a rear wiper with the lights then obscured as well as rear visibility.
I suspect this car would be the sort of car (see those above I mentioned) young ladies in their mid 20s would like. Unfortunately, as Johnny says, the big price tag means only rich kids will be buying them, given Minis, A1s and the like will be chic and better to drive.
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I only really watched the conclusion as I don't have the attention span for long videos. It seems like he was saying it's good, but expensive and has annoying 'safety' features.
I'd say the those so-called 'safety features' were bordering on damgerous. This issue (generally with modern cars and especially why I'm against any adoption of autonymous vehicles yet) has been a bugbear of mine for ages now, because most of them seemingly cannot cope easily with anything other than driving on a motorway, and especially not roads in the countryside in the UK.
There's a reason I own two cars that don't have lane keep assist...
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I only really watched the conclusion as I don't have the attention span for long videos. It seems like he was saying it's good, but expensive and has annoying 'safety' features.
I'd say the those so-called 'safety features' were bordering on damgerous. This issue (generally with modern cars and especially why I'm against any adoption of autonymous vehicles yet) has been a bugbear of mine for ages now, because most of them seemingly cannot cope easily with anything other than driving on a motorway, and especially not roads in the countryside in the UK.
There's a reason I own two cars that don't have lane keep assist...
If any 'new' car I wished to buy had such systems (lane keep), I'd want a button to switch it off, preferably permanently. Most annoyingly tend to rest back to default on when the car gets switched off.
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I only really watched the conclusion as I don't have the attention span for long videos. It seems like he was saying it's good, but expensive and has annoying 'safety' features.
I'd say the those so-called 'safety features' were bordering on damgerous. This issue (generally with modern cars and especially why I'm against any adoption of autonymous vehicles yet) has been a bugbear of mine for ages now, because most of them seemingly cannot cope easily with anything other than driving on a motorway, and especially not roads in the countryside in the UK.
There's a reason I own two cars that don't have lane keep assist...
If any 'new' car I wished to buy had such systems (lane keep), I'd want a button to switch it off, preferably permanently. Most annoyingly tend to rest back to default on when the car gets switched off.
It's a legal requirement some of them switch back on next ignition cycle.
You can't even turn off automatic lights on cars these days. Again, legislation.
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It performed well when Euro NCAP crash tested it - seems China has worked out how to design a safe car.
It wont be that much longer before China sorts out design & quality.
But perhaps longer still before they sort out the naming.
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It performed well when Euro NCAP crash tested it - seems China has worked out how to design a safe car.
It wont be that much longer before China sorts out design & quality.
But perhaps longer still before they sort out the naming.
Give it time & the Chinese automotive companies will figure out what works best for design plus naming outside the Chinese marketplace.
People complained about the poor crash safety standards of Chinese cars in the past, well that problem looks to be sorted.
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I like the name and design, can see it appealing to women. The software is the issue, expect that'll be amended for the next edition. The main problem is the price, originally touted to be about £25,000, this is now the same price as recognised brands.
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I like the name and design, can see it appealing to women.
And why wouldn't it appeal to men?
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I like the name and design, can see it appealing to women.
And why wouldn't it appeal to men?
;-) The same reason why most blokes don't buy Fiat 500s. A very 'handbag' type car, especially on the inside. Ok on the outside.
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Not sure that is entirely correct Andy, though there is certainly a percentage of "alfa males" who wouldn't be seen dead in such a car. I think most men would be happy enough to, but worry about how their male friends/relatives/workmates would view it (which is sad)!.
I'd be happy enough with a 500 if we could get away with rear accommodation that small, and I have no problem with the looks of the Ora Funky Cat.
IMO there are far too many cars who's styling is all angry aggression and scowling "faces". Nothing at all wrong with a happy and friendly looking car!
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Got me worried now. We own a 500e and I really liked the Funky Cat. Though I would prefer the one coming soon with the bigger battery.
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Got me worried now. We own a 500e and I really liked the Funky Cat. Though I would prefer the one coming soon with the bigger battery.
I think the 500e's a fantastic looking thing. Some people just thing anything comfortable or stylish is for women only.
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Got me worried now. We own a 500e and I really liked the Funky Cat. Though I would prefer the one coming soon with the bigger battery.
I think the 500e's a fantastic looking thing. Some people just thing anything comfortable or stylish is for women only.
Which people?
No one has written men won't buy a Funky Cat.
So a Rolls-Royce/Citroen etc are only for women now? That's a bizarre conclusion.
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“ I think the 500e's a fantastic looking thing. Some people just thing anything comfortable or stylish is for women only.”
I love the Fiat 500, they’re beautiful looking little cars. I’m still in a huff with my neighbour for trading in his red 500 Arbath that I had dibs on. Proper old school hot hatch, the likes of which we will never see again.
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I made a special trip to go and see a specialist Abarth 500/595 dealer in Wales. Turned up for my appointment and his mechanic told me that he wasn't in that day. Very weird. Put me right off them though!
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I'm sorry to hear about this. Generally, there's a lovely community around Italian cars. I'm assuming your wasted journey was to visit Ellani in Chepstow. If so, then that's not like Elliott at all. He has a reputation for looking after his clients. May I ask you give him another chance?
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I'm sorry to hear about this. Generally, there's a lovely community around Italian cars. I'm assuming your wasted journey was to visit Ellani in Chepstow. If so, then that's not like Elliott at all. He has a reputation for looking after his clients. May I ask you give him another chance?
Well, I wasn't going to name anyone as I'm not really into that. But, yes. He was very apologetic but couldn't really explain why he'd just disappeared. I think the mechanic was supposed to deal with me, but he had the interpersonal skills of, well, a mechanic. I've goty Twingo now, might try again one day. The cars certainly looked good.
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Well, I really can't blame you. Shame though as I think, or rather hope, an Abarth would have been more fun. Having said that, Abarth second hand prices are, in my view, a touch too high at the moment. More than the equivalent inflation seen elsewhere. Supply and demand I guess. I look forward to welcoming you to the Italian car fold sometime soon (and yes, I know the 500 range is built in Poland).
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Got me worried now. We own a 500e and I really liked the Funky Cat. Though I would prefer the one coming soon with the bigger battery.
I think the 500e's a fantastic looking thing. Some people just thing anything comfortable or stylish is for women only.
No, I didn't say that. It's the interior for me that turns me off. After all, I used to own a 1996 Nissan Micra 3dr. For the same reason, I don't like the interior looks of the 'modern' Mini.
A like stylish cars - including the interior, e.g. most of the latest Mazdas (3, CX-30, 6, CX-5 and alomst any MX-5), the previous generation of Audis (the latest VAGs look too 'boxy' to me, inside and out, especially the TT, A1, A3, A5), the Land Rover Discover Sport, some of the mid 2000s - 2010s Alfa coupes and sports saloons, the Seat Leon SC (2013-19) and equivalent Golf 3dr sportier FR / GT versions, the post Bangle BMW 3-series coupe (2012-19) and 5 series, and the latest and previous gen Merc C-class Coupe.
Even the latest KIA Ceed / XCeed has a decent style to it.
Just not keen on 'twee' interiors - the first Nissan Juke (and that exterior), the K12/13 Micras - like the Ora, in 'cream' (grey may be better) , many modern Minis, the Fiat 500 and, of course, the Chrysler PT Cruiser. The latest Micra looks ok (like the Citroen/DS3 in some more garish colours (even Orange on the former), but not all.
For me, 'cream' interiors have to be really 'done right' to be properly stylish - as well as in Mazdas (tend to be some trim and the seats, not all the interior) and some luxury cars like Bentleys, I don't see it done right that often.
Just a matter of personal taste I suppose.
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We've got a 500 and no one has ever made any comments, to my face at least. The TwinAir is great fun, fantastic sound, but it does bounce all over the place!
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I have no particular objection to the Funky Cat.
I thinks it's too expensive for what it is - a MG4 is far better value and probably a better car - but it's a bit different and I welcome oddness and choice in the marketplace.
Just because I wouldn't buy one doesn't mean others shouldn't be able to.
It's actually quite a bit car, Focus sized rather than Fiesta.
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I quite like the 500, my experience was having a hire car in France about five years ago. Cramped in the back and tiny boot but if that's not important then it's a decent car.
The Funky Cat looks good although I can relate to the reviewer's comments about the boot shape rather than size. I had the same issue with a Megane MK2, the one with the sharply styled rear. You could place something boxy in it and find the boot lid hit it. Style before practicality with that one.
It makes me think perhaps with some concern where the Chinese will be in another five years.
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Our 500e is the Red special edition. So it lacks a couple of necessities. Has poor headlights ( needs LED) and the seat lacks height adjustment. Everything else is pretty decent. The Abarth version is getting an additional 30bhp...totally unnecessary imo. It's a little rocket. I would like to sit a bit lower in it but other than that it's a great runabout. 42kwh battery wish it had a bit more but it is what it is.
If I'm doing a longer trip then our Mokka-e is preferable, more comfy and has adaptive cruise. But I would happily have a Funky Cat instead of the 500e. That interior looks superb.
Edited by Ethan Edwards on 13/05/2023 at 22:10
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Just to note in case not everyone is aware the 500e is not an electrified version of the Ice 500. It's an entirely different car on a different platform.
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Yes it is. I parked next to a petrol one the other day. The EV one just looks like it's been inflated a bit more. Same shape but a bit bigger all round. Still a small car .
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