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Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Cheryl@$!!

So i've been looking for a used car for a while and see that most cars are out of my price range. I'm shocked at the prices nowadays.

The car i own now is pretty old. Citroen C3 1.4. I bought it 11 years ago and it was 8 years old. I paid £3200 back then. Which i could just about afford. The car had low mileage of about 53, 000 and it was in great condition. I bought it because it suited my needs at the time and I bought almost straight away when I saw in on the forecourt. No long searches like now.

My car is still running fine and has 91,000 on the clock now. Looks ok except for some minor scratches. It also has a ripped passenger seat. The car has been great all these years but I don't want to keep driving it until it claps out. I only use it as a run around now but would love a car I can be confident driving at long distances and looks good.

I desperately need to upgrade my car and I have looked around for a while and to buy a car equivalent to my Citreon when i first bought it age wise (8 years old), I'm looking for a 2014-15 model. Most cars of those years are £8,000 +. Why? Not necessarily looking for a Citroen though. I'd love a Vauxhall Mokka ideally. Peugeot 2008 maybe or Kia Picanto. Every car I see is out of my price range. Why are used cars so high in price? I'm a single parent and work self employed. It's hard to be able to afford most things let alone a decent car nowadays.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Adampr

The main reason is a lack of supply of new cars due to various factors, but often pinned on a lack of chips being made in China due to Covid. People don't want to wait, so they buy nearly new, which is inflating prices

The other reason is that fuel is getting more expensive and there's a recession coming, so there is a lot of demand for small, efficient, reliable cars at the moment.

I think we'll see a downward movement soon, but we are no longer part of the EU so don't expect prices to ever go back to where they were.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - badbusdriver

I can well understand your frustration at used car prices, they are indeed ludicrous!. But as said, that probably isn't going to last much longer.

Re you current car, as long as it is looked after (re servicing) and drives fine, there is absolutely no reason to fear its imminent demise. That 1.4 petrol is very reliable, it is also very simple mechanically with little to go wrong.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - FoxyJukebox
Give it a birthday, new seats? , quick bodywork check? , MOT and have all the advisables “done”-then treat it to a big internal and external valet. Buy 4 new tyres too.
Keep for 2 years
Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Brit_in_Germany

In those 11 years, I would have expected car inflation to have taken the £3k up to around 5k. The current shortage of new cars will have raised that figure to some extent. Looking at the prices of C3's using the cars for sale tool here shows available cars around that mark. SUVs will be more expensive because they are seen as desirable.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Andrew-T

The car had low mileage of about 53, 000 and it was in great condition. I bought it because it suited my needs at the time and I bought almost straight away when I saw in on the forecourt. No long searches like now.

My car is still running fine and has 91,000 on the clock now. Looks ok except for some minor scratches. It also has a ripped passenger seat. The car has been great all these years but I don't want to keep driving it until it claps out. I only use it as a run around now but would love a car I can be confident driving at long distances and looks good.

Your main thought seems to be wanting not to look too out-of-date. If you cannot overcome that you will have to give in to the buying urge. But you have a car you have always liked and which hasn't let you down. It would be nice if one could always know when a breakdown is imminent, but life ain't like that. So give the car regular maintenance and with only 91K on the clock it should last some time yet. What is more, it will be easier and cheaper to fix than any newer car you might replace it with.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - badbusdriver

In those 11 years, I would have expected car inflation to have taken the £3k up to around 5k. The current shortage of new cars will have raised that figure to some extent.

Don't know what cars you have been looking at, but on Autotrader, the most expensive (petrol engined with manual gearbox) C3 of generation the OP has is £3495. That is for a mint 1 owner 2007 car with 25k miles. The OP's car is about 4 years older with 92k miles and in (superficially anyway) average condition. Given that, I fear £5k might be an unrealistic expectation!.

Going by the prices on Autotrader, £1-1.5k maybe........

:-)

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Brit_in_Germany

Don't know what cars you have been looking at, but on Autotrader, the most expensive (petrol engined with manual gearbox) C3 of generation the OP has is £3495. That is for a mint 1 owner 2007 car with 25k miles.

I doubt the OP is wanting to replace her car with one of the same vintage. I was referring to the cars around 8 years old, as per the original purchase.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - badbusdriver

Don't know what cars you have been looking at, but on Autotrader, the most expensive (petrol engined with manual gearbox) C3 of generation the OP has is £3495. That is for a mint 1 owner 2007 car with 25k miles.

I doubt the OP is wanting to replace her car with one of the same vintage. I was referring to the cars around 8 years old, as per the original purchase.

Yeah, I misunderstood, I thought you were implying she'd get £5k for it now because of the increase in used car prices! :-0

(doh!)

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Warning

You are better off sticking to your car. You say it is 11+8 = 19 years. What value would you get if you sold today? The French run their cars until they die.

There is a risk in buying a used car. You may be buying someone else's problem car. You need to money to be able to fix problems (which you may not if you are stretching your budget).

It is worth buying if you know the owners or there is a genuine reason for sale.... today's cars are less well made then those of years ago.

Unfashionable cars are cheaper.

Prices went up after Covid (even though we did a lot less driving and most cars sat there being driven less).

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Andrew-T

Why are used cars so high in price? I'm a single parent and work self employed.

That's a very simple question with a simple answer - supply and demand. Just now there are more buyers than sellers, so prices stay up. Some say that may be changing, but don't expect miracles yet.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Warning

I disagree about supply and demand.There was more money in "some" people's pockets. People not going out to restaurants, bars, holidays, shopping etc....

People with more money in their pockets.... A fool and his money are soon parted....

Chip shortage may have some impact, but people kept their cars unsusued local journeys....

Some friends are not commuting to work as they used to.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Andrew-T

Chip shortage may have some impact, but people kept their cars unused local journeys....

Some friends are not commuting to work as they used to.

Don't see the difference - people are keeping their cars, so the supply of used ones is less ?

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Bolt

Some friends are not commuting to work as they used to.

judging by the last month of traffic, apart from rail strikes, traffic has gone back to before Virus hit

it also notices on the cars around with poor levels of maintenance, low tyre treads loads of cars about with lights out, more smokey cars about including diesels exhausts , hanging off wipers/ removed on some cars and the odd running rough

and looking around at cars for BIL, found a lot of work needed on most we looked at even some around 4-6 years olds, so I suspect no one except those who look after there cars (few and far between now) just have no intensions of repairing cars to sell them, only just enough to get through MOT leaving advisories in place for next owner

IMO not the best time to look for a replacement car, best to stick with what you know if you can, if not take a good mechanic to check what you want otherwise it may cost a lot to fix what the seller doesn`t want to....

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - alan1302

Some friends are not commuting to work as they used to.

judging by the last month of traffic, apart from rail strikes, traffic has gone back to before Virus hit

it also notices on the cars around with poor levels of maintenance, low tyre treads loads of cars about with lights out, more smokey cars about including diesels exhausts , hanging off wipers/ removed on some cars and the odd running rough

Agree traffic is very busy - thought there would have been a reduction but my drive to work at back if anything takes longer than it should do with the volume of traffic.

Have seen quite a few diesel cars with a lot of black smoke coming out and cars that seem a little rough round the edges.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Big John

Various things have really upset the car market of late and there will be more turbulence ahead especially re interest rates etc. In my opinion WLTP started it as many car manufacturers paused to get all the ducks in line (it was an expensive process where many versions vanished esp 3 door models) - followed by Covid which triggered the chip shortage (affecting more than just the car market). I think that recent financial events may trigger a market correction - myself I'd hang on a bit longer as now is a terrible time to buy a car.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Terry W

Demand for new cars increased post pandemic as (a) many had put off purchase due to uncertainty, and (b) those who kept their income up during the pandemic saved as normal money pits were limited - holidays, restaurants, events etc.

Supply fell during lockdowns globally with disruption to complex supply chains making production problems more acute. Limits to the supply of chips contributed.

In the 5 years pre covid, an average of 2.7m vehicles pa were sold in the UK. This fell to ~2.0m in 2020, 2021 and seems the likely outcome in 2022.

In summary - there is a pent-up demand for ~2.0m new vehicles. Those available are often on long delivery times with high prices. The s/h market is limited by the availability of trade ins arising as new cars are sold.

At a guess, over the next 6-12 months problems with new car production will be overcome as pandemic impacts are largely consigned to history. Supply will increase.

Demand for new cars will be dulled by increasing interest rates, concerns over inflation generally, and job security. As supply starts to exceed demand, the response of car companies will be to reduce prices to keep volumes up.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - klu01dbt

It's a terrible time to buy a car, new or used.

You say your current car is still reliable, but desperately needs to be replaced, and you don't trust it on long journeys, but mostly use it as a local run around.

My advice would be, keep your current car, look after it as well as you can and car prices might get more sensible in the future.

Got longer distance drives, hire a car. Yes hire cars are expensive, but for the occasional journey they are vastly cheaper then a new car, or an eight year old second hand car that might have all sorts of expensive issues.

Edited by klu01dbt on 10/10/2022 at 22:43

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - Crickleymal

My advice would be, keep your current car, look after it as well as you can and car prices might get more sensible in the future.

Got longer distance drives, hire a car. Yes hire cars are expensive, but for the occasional journey they are vastly cheaper then a new car, or an eight year old second hand car that might have all sorts of expensive issues.

I agree. This is a sensible way to go.

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - barney100

It’s running fine? Quick trip to get seat covers, good session with a light t cut and polish. Don’t need to change the car!

Citreon - Struggling to buy a used car at todays prices - daveyK_UK
To the OP,
I share you frustration and so do many others regarding prices .

My good friend this week purchased a Cat N car which means it’s been in a crash but not structural damage (that would be a cat S car).
He got a Suzuki Celerio 18 plate with 36,000 miles and a service history including the copart report and photos of the cars damage so he could examine exactly where it had been repaired.

The car came with a fresh service and a brand new 12 month MoT all for the price of £3900 m which is considerably cheaper than the cheapest forecourt price for a similar aged and mileage of around £7,000.

He would never consider a car that had been in an accident and repaired but current car prices and his budget determined this to be the best option.

There are pitfalls, it will be worth less than a non recorded car when he sells it but he paid far less so no big deal.

You do have to be careful, any seller not wanting to disclose the post accident pictures should be avoided or spend £10 for a car check which normally will link you to the copart auction sales picture of the car in a damaged state.
A full test drive is a must, likewise make sure you know what your looking for and even consider spending £50 on having your local mechanic attend to give his thoughts,

Also you need to choose more simplistic cars that are easier to fix.
Why?
A simple Suzuki Celerio has cheap parts, plenty of bolt on parts and not many gizmos or gadgets to go wrong.
The more technology and higher the original price of the car, generally the more difficult they are to put right after an accident regardless if they are Cat N or Cat S.


I was watching a YouTube video today of a salvage mechanic who had purchased a fire damaged Audi A1 and was having to replace the wiring loom for the entire car which involved stripping out the entire interior! A huge undertaking,


Edited by daveyK_UK on 15/10/2022 at 19:19