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Kia Niro v Skoda Octavia - Help choosing - Flyto350

Hi - need a new family car (baby due early next year). Car will mainly be used for urban driving with the occasional excursion further afield. Storage wise, just need something to chuck a chid buggy and associated paraphernalia in.

Test drove a few cars and my wife really likes the Kia Niro Hybrid (Version 3 - 16 inch wheels). I thought the Skoda Octavia 1.0 TSI would be better though.

Economy wise, I don't think the Hybrid Niro would have any significant advantage over the Octavia for general urban/town driving but it did feel like a more comfortable ride.

Does anyone have any informed advice on what they think may be the better choice!!??

Edited by Flyto350 on 13/09/2018 at 16:32

Kia Niro v Skoda Octavia - Help choosing - Wee Willie Winkie

The boot on a Niro isn't that big. You'd be surprised how much boot space a pram takes up.

Kia Niro v Skoda Octavia - Help choosing - badbusdriver

If you are buying new, the Niro has a 7 year warranty, which can only be a good thing. Even if you don't plan to keep it that long, it will be reassuring to the next owner if the car still has a few years warranty left. You mention a buggy, which presumably means you have a little 'un, in which case, the extra height of the Niro seats will make it easier to get them into and out of the car. Possibly most importantly though, your wife prefers the Niro!

Kia Niro v Skoda Octavia - Help choosing - Westernman
I have been driving a Niro since Jan 2018 and have covered 11000 miles, mixture of local driving and long trips to France and remote parts of UK. Over that time I have averaged around 62mpg. I get 75-80 in warm weather and plodding around flatter country. The worst was driving down a French motorway over the hilly parts of France at 85mph, in cold driving rain and heavily loaded when we only got 52mpg. The fuel consumption is temperature dependent - in very cold weather we can lose 5-7 mpg as the battery is less efficient.

The car is easy to drive - especially in urban and suburban driving. It is at it worst on hills and on motorway runs at high speed when it’s lack of real power becomes more noticeable. It’s fine -but I had a 3.5 litre SUV before so I notice that I no longer have the same overall ‘grunt’. The engine is very quiet especially at low speeds when it usually switches to electric mode.

The boot is not huge. You can enlarge it considerably by removing the boot floor and there is half as much again beneath. Or space for a full size spare wheel.

It’s not too big or too small. It drives well. It’s very cheap to run. A £40 fill up will get you over 509 miles. The slightly raised driving position and clearance are useful in our rural area.

I can’t compare it to a Skoda Octavia. I suspect the Niro will give you a better real world fuel consumption and it has a 7 year warranty. The Niro has a 1.6 engine which is going to be more relaxed and potentially last longer than a turbo enhanced 1.0 engine. Other people on this forum will give you views on the longevity of small petrol turbos.

Bear in mind that the Niro 3 comes on 17 inch wheels which knock off 10mpg. That’s why the Honest John real mpg figure for the Niro is the average between the more economical 16 inch wheels on the Niro 1&2 and the 17 inch wheels of the Niro 3&4 and less than I am quoting. If you buy new, you can specify the Niro 3 with 16 inch wheels but retain all the toys of the 3 trim.
Kia Niro v Skoda Octavia - Help choosing - KB.

^^ ^^ Very helpful. Real world advice ... ta.

Kia Niro v Skoda Octavia - Help choosing - skidpan

My opinion (for what its worth),

Had a Kia and now have 2 Skodas, very happy with both brands so no bias here.

Niro is pretty expensive for what is not a huge car and no hybrid will ever get anywhere near the official mpg. Many owners moan about the mpg on the Kia forum (but they moan about most things), most seem to get just under 50 mpg.

The 110 PS TSi is a great engine in our Fabia but I cannot see me ever buying one in an Octavia sized car. It will happilly cruise at 70 mpg and give decent mpg (mid 40's at a guess) but overtaking will be a bit steafy in a car that size.

But move upto an Octavia with the 150 PS 1.4 (or newer 1.5 engine) and it will be a brilliant car. Th 150 PS 1.4 in our Superb is averaging 45 mpg, on a run we have seen over 55 mpg. Performance is great and the mpg and performanmce in the smaller Octavia should be even better.

Just looked on the Carfile.net website (bought my last 3 cars fron Jonathan) and there are some great offers currently. Take a car from stock before the end of September and a 1.4 TSi Octavia Hatch in SE trim after discount, PCP contribution and special discount will set you back £14222.30. Obviously extras will add to the cost (as will moving to an SE-L or 1.5 engine) but you will not get a better car anwhere for less money. Pay off the PCP within the first couple of weeks and you will keep the £2500 that Skoda give you, done it 3 times now.

Carfile use Rainworth Motors and the salesman that does all their deals, Richard, is knowledgeable and helpful.

If you are still interested in the Skoda contact Jonathan at Carfile via the website.

I ahve no connection with either company other than being a happy repeat customer.

Carfiles price on the Niro 3 is £23241.55, a decent saving but is it really worth £9000 more than the bigger Octavia, I doubt it.

Kia Niro v Skoda Octavia - Help choosing - Westernman
All good points on Skoda especially the price difference although once you spec the Octavia to the same level as the Niro 3 the price is much closer. I disagree with your analysis of the Kia website moaners though. Honest John real mpg for the Niro is 57mpg and that includes the less efficient 17 inch wheels as well as the more efficient 16 inch wheels. What a difference an inch makes eh?

There are people on the Kia website who moan that they cannot get 50 or more mpg on the Niro. It could be a range of things from cold weather to terrible driving. From my own experience, no matter how I drive and no matter how cold, the mpg is always over 50 and usually over 60. Most Niro owners are also getting the same. It is most definitely fuel efficient.

The Toyota Prius and Hyundai Ioniq get better mpg than the Niro but the Niro is more practical in terms of ground clearance and general toughness which suits my rural area.

The Octavia has a bigger boot. Kia have a better reliability record than Skoda for cars over four years old. The Octavia is more distinctive looking - the Niro is a little bland. I suspect both are good cars but serve different audiences depending on whether boot size or mpg is the dominant factor.
Kia Niro v Skoda Octavia - Help choosing - Avant
Interesting comparison - although I agree with Skidpan that the 1.4 or 1.5 Octavia is the better one to compare with the Niro.

It’s reminiscent of the diesel / petrol argument, although it isn’t as simple as saying that the higher mileage you do, the stronger the case for diesel. The hybrid is at its best in town, yet urban and suburban motoring usually means fewer miles, so that the greater economy isn’t going to offset the extra cost so quickly.

So do the sums, but if the results are inconclusive it comes back to which you prefer to drive - or more to the point, which your other half prefers.
Kia Niro v Skoda Octavia - Help choosing - badbusdriver

The pair of cars the OP has mentioned, has peaked my interest here, as they are so different from each other. So i have done a little reading on both and discovered some interesting (at least to a nerd like me!) nuggets of info.

The first is regarding the Octavia's weight, or in this case, lack of. Given the size of the Octavia, i find it remarkable that it tips the scales at just 1150kg!. It certainly explains the performance figures being somewhat sprightlier than you might expect from a car that size packing a 1.0 turbo triple, with 60mph coming up in 9.6 seconds (figures from online 'Car' review of 11/5/17). Of course the down side of this is with a full compliment of passengers and luggage, the percentage difference in power to weight ratio is going to be very noticable!. I also must point out, that i really am not a fan of the current Octavia's front end styling!, though obviously this is entirely down to personal opinion.

As for the Niro, i read an Autocar review online (date unknown) and what i found interesting is the difference in Kia's quoted acceleration time for the Niro vs the figures achieved by Autocar. The following is extracted from the review:

Kia’s 0-62mph acceleration claim for the car is 11.5sec, which would be a decent if unremarkable showing from an economy-minded crossover – if it wasn’t a significant underestimation of the Niro’s true potential. In slightly damp conditions, the car’s two-way average 0-60mph time was actually 9.7sec, whereas most of the diesel-powered, sub-100g/km crossovers we’ve tested of late have struggled to go under 12.0sec. Unlike in a Toyota hybrid, it’s possible to hold the Niro in a selected gear at full power (provided you don’t activate the kickdown switch at the bottom of the accelerator pedal), and doing so shows that the car is also surprisingly strong on in-gear acceleration. For example, 30-70mph in fourth gear takes 13.7sec, which is several seconds quicker than direct rivals can manage.

While i understand that the Kia is not a performance car of any stretch of the imagination, it does seem odd that they quote a 0-62 time nearly two seconds slower than the car is actually capable of?

Incidentally, the Kia, in higher '3' spec, weighs in at 1512kg, some 362kg (!) more than the Octavia.