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BMW E39 535i (1998) - BMW E39 automatic problem - oil? - Chris on the road

Hello, 101k miles on 1998 535i, serviced 2 months ago by an independent. He said he'd changed the gear oil as well as a fairly major service to get the car back on the road. He told me that I'd probably find the gear changes in the auto box a bit jerky at first but if it didn't settle then I could take it back to 'get the gear oil topped up'. He was right, it IS jerky, but only really when going round a corner or when the engine is cold. This makes me think it's a gear oil problem, but I've since read about the 'sealed for life' unit. Is topping up the gear oil something for the amateur, like topping up engine oil, or is there more to it? I spoke to a classic car enthusiast the other day, who looked horrified and advised me to get it topped up ASAP to 'save the cones'! Equally, I've spoken with others who are a bit more relaxed about the whole thing. There's now a bit of a 'burning oil' smell from the engine after a run out. What could be wrong?

Thanks

Chris

BMW E39 535i (1998) - BMW E39 automatic problem - oil? - RobJP

It can be done by an amateur. But far better done by a garage, tbh.

He should have made sure it was at the proper level before it went out. Basically what they have to do is fill it, then close it up, work the car through the gears, and then open up and top up.

It's more involved than that, but that's the jist of it.

BMW E39 535i (1998) - BMW E39 automatic problem - oil? - Chris on the road

It can be done by an amateur. But far better done by a garage, tbh.

He should have made sure it was at the proper level before it went out. Basically what they have to do is fill it, then close it up, work the car through the gears, and then open up and top up.

It's more involved than that, but that's the jist of it.

Thanks for your reply.

BMW E39 535i (1998) - BMW E39 automatic problem - oil? - slkfanboy

It could be done but it's not easy. The oil need to be at exact tempresure and the correct steps taken with all wheels off the ground and level. Not easy

BMW E39 535i (1998) - BMW E39 automatic problem - oil? - gordonbennet

Don't mind me asking, but what was wrong with a dipstick to check level and fill through the dipstick tube, and a simple drain bung in the autobox sump, such as found in our 96 merc, 2000 Landcruiser and 2002 Subaru Outback (front axle has its own dipstick too on that), and Japanese at least continued long after with simple dipsticks, might still do for all i know.

Hadn't realised BMW had gone down the road of making things as awkward as possible as early as on E39..

BMW E39 535i (1998) - BMW E39 automatic problem - oil? - slkfanboy

A dipstick is fairly useless.

The Oil expands with temperature so the level must be checked at the correct temperature and the car be completely level.

Rather than have a dip stick they use the top-up hole and wait for the oil to stop running out. This is a fairly consistent approach for German cars in general.

BMW E39 535i (1998) - BMW E39 automatic problem - oil? - gordonbennet

Whats useless about a dipstick ,we've been using the things for a century, auto boxes have a routine to follow, eg warm in P engine running, how can that be any less useful/accurate than a level plug, we're not sticking a twig in and comparing to the height of the sump.

Dipstick also gives you the chance to see and feel the oil for yourself.

Each to their own, it takes me 2 minutes to check the gearboxes on all three of our TC autos via the stick, and a further 30 seconds to check the front axle on the Scooby whilst there...it goes without saying what any manufacturer can do with their cars that come with no engine dipstick either.

BMW E39 535i (1998) - BMW E39 automatic problem - oil? - Steveieb

My colleague was horified when his MB main dealer charged him five hours labour for draining and refilling his auto gearbox.

But maybe it could take this long reading the posts above ? i.e waiting for the oil to settle.