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ford fusion 3 1.4tdci 2003 - blue smoke from engine bay - mark heer

hi,

recently brought a car and noticed a strange blue smoke coming from top of engine, but dont know where its coming from.... no smoke from exhaust at all..

its very toxic and even enters the cabin wel the smell does...

any advice would be great....

could it be a breather pipe or somert else

kind regards

mark

ford fusion 3 1.4tdci 2003 - blue smoke from engine bay - elekie&a/c doctor

Possible spilt air intake or breather pipe,but more likely to be injector seals.A very common problem.hth

ford fusion 3 1.4tdci 2003 - blue smoke from engine bay - mark heer

thanks for the reply, ive given me an insight..

i cant pinpoint where its coming from as yet until i start removing parts...

its appears to be coming up from underneath the airbox to the rear of the engine..

thanks

ford fusion 3 1.4tdci 2003 - blue smoke from engine bay - elekie&a/c doctor

That is precisely where the injectors are located.

ford fusion 3 1.4tdci 2003 - blue smoke from engine bay - mark heer

rite understand, is it an easy fix?

thank you again for your help

ford fusion 3 1.4tdci 2003 - blue smoke from engine bay - MrEckerslikefromRamsbottom

Yup, that's a leaking injector and as the other contributors have said, this engine does suffer from it. Just paid 120 quid to a local mechanic to re-seat the ones on my 1.4Tdci. Mine weren't quite that bad, just dribbling diesel down past the thermostat housing, and at 180 thousand miles, it's the second time they've been done.

ford fusion 3 1.4tdci 2003 - blue smoke from engine bay - Peter.N.

If you look where the injectors are seated you will likely find some pitch looking substance around the offending injector.

ford fusion 3 1.4tdci 2003 - blue smoke from engine bay - mark heer

ive taken off the airbox for closer inspection, it looks as though its been in this condition for a long time possible 2 years or more, their is a huge amount of carbon build up in some places as much as an inch thick or more. very thick and sticky stuff, it comes off easy with a screwdriver (flakes off..... some is like tar around the injectors.. its grey/black in colour... seems even hot gases have slightly melted the airbox.. not really loosing oil

well i brought the car for £800, and took the risk it would be a simple fix...

its a little jerky pulling off in first gear. and the engine sounds like its learnt tap dancing.... worse at idle and goes at half thottle.... i considering doing the job myself....

ford quoted me yesterday just in parts nearly £400

ford fusion 3 1.4tdci 2003 - blue smoke from engine bay - MrEckerslikefromRamsbottom

Parts required just to re-seat the injectors are - copper seats, plastic seals and new hold-down bolts. As I said above, my local diesel enthusiast did the job for £120. Garage mechanics will tell you that the best way to clear the black gunge is to spray with Mr Muscle oven cleaner, leave overnight, then blast away with an air line.The seats in the cylinder head may be burnt and may need cleaning-up with the seat-cutter tool.

Two local garages refused to do an injector job, saying that if one or more injectors were stuck, they would have to call in the local diesel specialist with the expensive hydraulic puller tools, and that I would be better to take the car to the specialist (which is what you should do rather than take it to Ford, because the Ford dealer is likely to take it to the local diesel specialist then charge you twice what the specialist charges them). But I hear that on this engine, there's more chance of the injectors coming loose than of them sticking.

If Ford want £400 for parts, are they pricing in a new air-box, if you say that the air box may be damaged by the hot gasses? Can the air-box not be repaired? Perhaps you could source one from a breaker or even e-Bay.

One problem that you may find is that with all the plastic on top of and around the engine, some of the screws threaded into the plastic will strip the thread. This is because plastic deteriorates with age and with the temperature extremes in an engine bay, it deteriorates even faster. It won't be you being ham-fisted, it's just the way it is. If it happens, drill 'em out and fit a plas-plug.

Four 'unnered quid? Nay lad, nay.

ford fusion 3 1.4tdci 2003 - blue smoke from engine bay - elekie&a/c doctor

Just to add to the excellent advice above,you may need a set of injector spill return pipes,as they will probably fracture (plastic)as you move them.hth

ford fusion 3 1.4tdci 2003 - blue smoke from engine bay - mark heer

im not mad to hand over that much for just parts.... would rather buy the parts from ebay ect and do it myself. im rather handy on servicing works, done suspension bushes, brakes... from what you say sounds not to difficult... just going to cost me a bit in tools... the parts add to about £50

airbox is fine still, it slightly melted and deformed above the worst injector. but you dont know unless you look underneath....

just hope i can remove most of the carbon ect and hope there isnt much in the hole for the injectors...

thank you for you help..