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Saab 9000 - Saab 9000-should I buy? - Alfred Rees-Glinos

Hi. Please could you advise re. Having a Saab 9000 as a classic car proposition. Some seemingly well cared for ones are for sale for decent money. Is there anything to look out for? This car would be for my friend who can only now drive automatics, so how strong is the auto box in these cars generally? I understand that the 9000 was one of the last 'true' Saabs before the 'cloned Vectra' 9-5. Does that make the 9000 a better buy over the more modern 9-5? Thanks in advance.

Saab 9000 - Saab 9000-should I buy? - Big John

Excellent car back in the day with fabulous proper Saab engines some high pressure turbo versions being very lively indeed for the period. I had a 9000cs 2.0 light pressure turbo that still had good performance and not terrible economy (30+ish mpg, managed 36mpg on long European trip). Seats are outstanding. Mine was a fantastic very long distance cruiser - did Munich from Blighty in one go, not a twinge! Boot takes a washing machine without dropping the seats.

Points to check:-

  • Rust rust and rust - most have died because of tin worm, they are rather prone. Some still seem to be surprisingly good though
  • Ignition system can be an issue both the earlier distributor cap/leads or the later coil pack module. Not a show stopper but something to look out for. Not sure if it's the position on the engine that makes it susceptible.
  • Auto box can be fragile but if it has a service history with numerous gearbox oil changes they last the test of time.
  • Check interiors thoroughly.

Edited by Big John on 02/09/2024 at 18:23

Saab 9000 - Saab 9000-should I buy? - Warning

"coil pack module"

Spot on. We had issue and I think it is worth putting in a new one rather then a re-conditioned one, which will not last.

Saab 9000 - Saab 9000-should I buy? - badbusdriver

I understand that the 9000 was one of the last 'true' Saabs before the 'cloned Vectra' 9-5.

Depends on how you look at it. The 9000 was part of a joint project between Saab, Lancia, Fiat and Alfa Romeo. The Alfa (164) did look completely different, but I believe the front and rear doors of the 9000, Lancia Thema and Fiat Croma are actually interchangeable!. Yes, Saab did a lot of engineering (mainly strengthening, as the Swede's felt it too weak) to the basic structure and it did use Saab's own engines apart from at the very end (where a GM V6 was offered). But IMO, as a Saab fan, the classic 900 was the last "proper" Saab.

Which engine is in the car you are looking at?

Saab 9000 - Saab 9000-should I buy? - Warning

My father owned a manual Saab 9000, which he purchased used when it was about 3-4 years old. I loved how it accelerated—it was truly a joy to drive. The car felt incredibly solid and well-built, almost like a tank, with every component feeling like a solid piece of metal. However, owning a Saab comes with the need for a reliable network of mechanics. When we took it to the Saab main dealer, they handed us a six-page list of repairs. We declined to do the repairs. We then went to an independent Saab specialist for some of the work, but they ended up being disappointing. Badly advising us to use reconditioned parts, rather then buying one ones.

The local independent mechanic was okay, but they didn’t work on enough Saabs to develop the necessary expertise and support us in a good way.

Of course, nowadays, there’s more help and support available online.

Eventually, the car broke down and wouldn’t start, even though it had low mileage. It may have been the clutch or something. The buyer came with a two truck came and ended up buying it from my dad, but I’m not sure if the buyers ever made it back on the road.

If you’re thinking about buying one, my advice is to make sure you have reliable mechanic support, access to parts, and be prepared for the associated costs.

Edited by Warning on 02/09/2024 at 18:56

Saab 9000 - Saab 9000-should I buy? - catsdad

I had both a horrible Vectra and the 9-5 as company cars. I knew their common ancestry but to drive and “own” they were very different cars. Pretty much every visible part is different between the cars, Saab seats and paintwork were superb. Crucially the Saab was turbo charged. It had a couple of faults in my stewardship, the Vectra more than 20.

Of course the 9-5 will never be a proper Saab to an enthusiast but to someone who simply wants something a bit unusual it’s maybe worth considering. I am not sure what GM parts made it to the 9-5 but the few parts that did are maybe easier to get hold of. However the fact that they were always a bit tainted by the Vectra association may mean, that, although newer, they weren’t as likely to be cherished.

Saab 9000 - Saab 9000-should I buy? - SLO76
I’m a big fan of the 9000, particularly the early models before they cut quality and added spoilers and other faff. But it’s not a car to buy as an everyday runner, they’re too old, most are crusty and parts are hard to come by. If it’s an absolute must then I’d favour the non-turbocharged cars in 2.0 and 2.3 form, there’s less to go wrong and they’re less likely to have been abused.
Saab 9000 - Saab 9000-should I buy? - badbusdriver

I’m a big fan of the 9000, particularly the early models before they cut quality and added spoilers and other faff.

From my time working at a Saab dealer ('90-'95) that isn't my recollection at all. The early 9000's didn't feel that well put together in terms of interior trim and certainly not a patch on the classic 900. In my experience, the quality on the 9000 steadily improved during the lifespan of the car.

Also not sure what you mean about spoilers, as the 9000 (apart from the Carlsson) was never fitted with anything too jarring and that didn't change throughout the lifespan of the car.