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Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - Car3

I recently experienced the driver-assist features in a VW Polo. All of them were terrible. The car would routinely mis-identify lanes, sound a siren and flash a screen telling me to stop, pop-up unhelp warning whenever approaching roundabouts, and it would release the handbrake prematurely when starting on hills. It wasn't a feature set that impressed me.

I've read that automatic emergency braking (AEB) triggering erroneously has been an issue with some cars, including Hondas. I expected better from Honda.

There doesn't seem to be any quality standard for this feature set. I'd like to know which manufacturers fair well, which poorly, and how easy it is to turn these features off permanently? Many - if not all - of the features seem to turn on again whenever the engine starts, including in stop-start traffic.

Can I see somewhere the number of collisions caused by driver-assist features, broken down by manufacturer?

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - Adampr

Automatic emergency braking and lane keep assist are my absolute least favourites. I'm not really a fan of anything that takes my ability to control the car away. I suppose.you could argue that ABS and traction control do that too, so perhaps these things will evolve into something useful in the future.

As for funding cars without them, look for the lowest NCAP scores as all these things are chucked in just to get the score up. Dacia are particularly notable for not bothering with them.

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - Chris M

"Automatic emergency braking and lane keep assist are my absolute least favourites."

Out of interest, how do you know you don't like automatic emergency braking? I've had it now for over 6 years and still don't know what it will do if I fall asleep at the wheel. I guess it may save my life:)

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - Adampr

"Automatic emergency braking and lane keep assist are my absolute least favourites."

Out of interest, how do you know you don't like automatic emergency braking? I've had it now for over 6 years and still don't know what it will do if I fall asleep at the wheel. I guess it may save my life:)

I'm talking about 'city braking' - I assume they're the same thing, but another problem with all this nonsense is that everyone gives them different names.

Anyway I hate it for two reasons:

1. In my current car, it likes to slam on the brakes whilst I'm turning in my drive. It's quite tight, so I tend to touch park with a particular hedge. The car hates it and brakes very hard with no warning.

2. In my old Golf, it likes to suddenly brake when a car came the other way every now and then. Normally, whilst creeping at a right hand turn as the last car in a long line passed.

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - badbusdriver

I've read that automatic emergency braking (AEB) triggering erroneously has been an issue with some cars, including Hondas. I expected better from Honda.

Why?, they've no more experience with them than anyone else.

There doesn't seem to be any quality standard for this feature set. I'd like to know which manufacturers fair well, which poorly, and how easy it is to turn these features off permanently? Many - if not all - of the features seem to turn on again whenever the engine starts, including in stop-start traffic.

Can I see somewhere the number of collisions caused by driver-assist features, broken down by manufacturer?

Driver assist features haven't really been around long enough for there to be a list on which make does best and which does worst. I'd also imagine that within one make, there would be different systems depending on the price of the car. These may well work in different ways and probably differing levels of effectiveness.

AFAIK, none can be turned off permanently.

If you don't like them, buy a low/mid spec Dacia. The reason they don't perform well in Euro NCAP crash tests is because the models tested don't have all the driver assist "safety" features.

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - badbusdriver

"Automatic emergency braking and lane keep assist are my absolute least favourites."

Out of interest, how do you know you don't like automatic emergency braking? I've had it now for over 6 years and still don't know what it will do if I fall asleep at the wheel. I guess it may save my life:)

As someone who drives a lot on fairly rural country roads, I totally agree that things like lane keep and brake assist are a liability. Without clearly defined white lines, the systems get very confused.

But even in urban areas, things like negotiating a traffic island with cars parked before and after it can trigger emergency braking. That is going by reading long term tests in motoring magazines

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - Chris M

My Astra gives an audible and visual warning if it thinks you are going to hit something, but only above a certain speed. Can't recall what that speed is but it's something like 25mph. It also has 3 levels of driver set sensitivity. But that feature isn't emergency braking in action, it's just an alert. As previously mentioned, it's never applied the brakes, because I'm such a good, alert driver ;)

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - martin.mc

As others have said, if you don't like these features buy a Dacia. My 2021 Duster doesn't have automatic emergency braking or lane departure warning. There's a reverse parking alert and a blind spot warning system but both can be switched off permanently. I leave them activated as they are not intrusive or annoying. It's also got an ignition key and a 'proper' handbrake.

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - _

The diver assist system I dislike the most is the one on the passenger seat.

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - gordonbennet

Having experienced AEBS and its numerous failings multiple times in lorries over the past few years its not something i would want in a car.

Lane departure warnings are just annoying, can usually be manually turned off in trucks via the dash, i would not want it on a car especially if its a system that tries to 'force' the steering to keep you in lane, anything that interferes with the steering can go wrong and has no place in a vehicle of any description.

Blind spot warnings are fine, many drivers need them because they have no idea what's going on anywhere other than up to 50 yards ahead of the bonnet.

ABS is only really a disadvantage on snow when arguably being able to lock the brakes could be helful in building up some resistance, the right tyres would be more useful.

Traction and stability control systems usually work well, if they have a disadvantage they tend to give some drivers a false impression of not only their own vehicle control skill but can disguise just how little actual tyre grip there can be on slippery surfaces because there comes a point even the best systems can't protect the vehicle and occupants from excessive forces, without such system drivers would have enough scares to have made them aware and limit their exuberance....one can usually turn TC/ASR off which can help in harsh conditions such as when stuck in snow or mud.

The lack of the more intrusive features is a big selling point for some of us, i'm sure for many potential Dacia Jogger buyers (possibly us too) the lack of nanny fitments is an attraction, the low NCAP rating due entirely to such faff being missing i doubt will affect sales much for a variety of reasons, indeed it might highlight to those already disenchanted with AEBS that there is a decent modern estate care one can buy without an overbearing nanny.

ORB i can't believe you said that, does the fair lady not read these pages or are your various pots and pans not made of cast iron :-)

Edited by gordonbennet on 07/08/2023 at 06:47

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - focussed

As others have said, if you don't like these features buy a Dacia. My 2021 Duster doesn't have automatic emergency braking or lane departure warning. There's a reverse parking alert and a blind spot warning system but both can be switched off permanently. I leave them activated as they are not intrusive or annoying. It's also got an ignition key and a 'proper' handbrake.

Nobody will take any notice on here if you admit to owning a Dacia, it's the HJ VW/Skoda and Toyota supporters club, it's all about how can I impress the neighbours with my latest car purchase with all the bells and whistles, rather than look at the car I just bought that does the job, and is in the top ten for reliability and didn't cost me anything like north of 30 grand.

An ignition key? And a handbrake? Wow ! Must be some kind of throwback to an earlier age!

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - _

Nobody will take any notice on here if you admit to owning a Dacia, it's the HJ VW/Skoda and Toyota supporters club, it's all about how can I impress the neighbours with my latest car purchase with all the bells and whistles, rather than look at the car I just bought that does the job, and is in the top ten for reliability and didn't cost me anything like north of 30 grand.

An ignition key? And a handbrake? Wow ! Must be some kind of throwback to an earlier age!

Really? AM in that vast minority with a SSangyong, lots of Kias MG, Chevrolets? BIG SMILEY !!

Maybe some of the others don't post as they have less problems?

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - Andrew-T

<< Nobody will take any notice on here if you admit to owning a Dacia, it's the HJ VW/Skoda and Toyota supporters club, it's all about how can I impress the neighbours with my latest car purchase with all the bells and whistles. >>

I don't get that impression, so the viewers in France and the UK must wear specs of different tints. Certainly there is regular advice to buy oriental cars with petrol engines for reliability, but I haven't noticed a strong German bias.

Enquiries do come in from some with strange needs, but that is not a reflection of the 'support' provided.

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - madf

The Lane Assist function on initial 2020 on Mark4 Honda Jazz was too sensitive /brutal with a result that on single track roads it steered drivers into the verge on the other side of the road.

Switching it off was a multi level menu job.

Later ones I believe are far less sensitive and brutal.

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - HGV ~ P Valentine

Worst has got to be the person who had to walk in front of the car with a flag in all weathers ( yes I know it was a while ago ), best when they went fast enough that they no longer had to.

Who does the best/worst driver-assist features? - Ethan Edwards

Driver Assist is just that. If it was Driver replace they'd call it that. You still have control, so use it or lose it. Personally I don't want to be in a driverless pod.

But that's just me. I'm a bit of a luddite , I specifically turn off lane assist as I find it overly intrusive. I do like to at least steer.