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Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - Useless female
My matiz has been fine for the few months I’ve had it. 14 years old but only 45k on the clock.
Normally it would zip up a big hill at 60/70mph but over the last couple of weeks it’s been struggling to get uphill.
Last time I drove it it struggled to make 20mph on the hills and was slow on the flat and there was an awful strong ‘fuel’ smell when I tried to push it.
It starts fine. No warning lights on the dash and no other problems that I’m aware of.
A couple of people (and Google) said it could be the fuel filter blocked so I was hoping that’s what it was.
Had a mechanic out to look at it this morning. He drove it a bit and plugged some computer thing into it and came to the conclusion that it needs a new clutch. This puzzled me because I’ve not had any problems with the clutch. He also said the alternator needs changing and that would stop the battery charging, but again I’ve had no battery/warning lights on the dash.
I know I don’t know much about the mechanics of a car but confused how the clutch would make the car sluggish uphill.
Any thoughts welcome.
Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - skidpan
I know I don’t know much about the mechanics of a car but confused how the clutch would make the car sluggish uphill. Any thoughts welcome.

If the clutch is slipping the car will not get drive uphill (and to a lesser extend on the flat) thus will be slower than it was. But you would know about it since the engine would be revving its nuts off.

Suggest you let someone look at the car who is actually a mechanic.

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - gordonbennet

That strong fuel smell could easily be clutch lining burning, try starting off in third gear, the engine should stall straight out, if it doesn't and the engine revs continue high with the car gradually moving away then almost certainly the clutch is toast.

Don't leave it, if it hasn't already the flywheel itself can be ruined by a severaly worn clutch which will put the cost up considerably.

Can't comment on the fuel filter, but it could probably do with a service and checkover at a good indy workshop anyway, maybe someone different to the chap you've already had out.

I like the Matiz, super little town car.

Edited by gordonbennet on 20/02/2023 at 15:46

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - sammy1

Stop on even a gentle slope and if the car won't take off well then it is the clutch

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - Railroad.

My guess is you have a blocked exhaust. Some simple checks by someone who knows what they're doing will confirm this or otherwise.

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - Crickleymal

My guess is you have a blocked exhaust. Some simple checks by someone who knows what they're doing will confirm this or otherwise.

Sounds reasonable, or air filter possibly

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - Adampr

A very long shot but worth checking and/or having a mechanic inspect - when was the cambelt last changed or inspected?. I can find reviews saying that it's vital that it's done on schedule but sadly not why.

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - Railroad.

A very long shot but worth checking and/or having a mechanic inspect - when was the cambelt last changed or inspected?. I can find reviews saying that it's vital that it's done on schedule but sadly not why.

The need to replace a cambelt in itself will not affect engine performance or restore lost performance. However if the valve timing is incorrect for whatever reason then it would. If the valve timing has moved then something is wrong. Most likely the crankshaft or camshaft keys worn or the belt tension is slack. That should be pretty obvious to anyone though.

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - paul 1963

Sounds like a blocked air filter, whip out that filter and have a look at it, chances are it's absolutely filthy, nice cheap fix if I'm right ( if it is the filter it's probably worth changing the other filters, oil etc while your under the bonnet), please let us know how you get on.

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - edlithgow

No harm in looking (with appropriate care to avoid introducing dirt into the engine) but cars are very very insensitive to restricted air filters.

A feedback-loop controlled car (which this almost certainly is) is very, very, very insensitive to a restricted air filter.

In extremis it''d loose power, but it shouldn't run rich because the engine management should prevent it.

This implies that this cause shouldn't result in the "fuel smell" symptom.

A clogged fuel filter could also restrict power, but it shouldn't result in a "fuel smell" unless back pressure from the blockage is causing an actual fuel leak.

If this was the case, it'd likely be constant rather than just on the uphill.

While these would both be cheap fixes, my money is on clutch slip, which unfortunately isn't, but you can test for it, as described above, before committing to the spend.

Something to check/jhave checked before replacement might be clutch adjustment.

While I believe most cars have hydraulic clutch control, which doesn't normally require adjustment, a couple of my smaller, cheaper cars (Renault 5, Daihatsu Skywing) at least have had cable actuated clutches which needed adjusted ocaisionally.

A blocked exhaust would also seem to be a possibility. On a non-cat car (which yours almost certainly isn't) this is often easy to fix, but also much less likely,

A cat equipped car would probably require a new catalytic converter.

Easiest (as in most easily interpreted) way to diagnose that is to remove your oxygen sensor, which "opens up" the exhaust, bypassing the exhaust restriction and restoring power.

Its supposed to be diagnosable with a vaccuum gauge too with experience. l couldn't make sense of the results when I tried it.

Edited by edlithgow on 22/02/2023 at 08:41

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - Railroad.

Easiest (as in most easily interpreted) way to diagnose that is to remove your oxygen sensor, which "opens up" the exhaust, bypassing the exhaust restriction and restoring power.

Its supposed to be diagnosable with a vaccuum gauge too with experience. l couldn't make sense of the results when I tried it.

To indicate a blocked exhaust a vacuum gauge would initially show a close to normal reading of around 20in-hg at idle, but would slowly decrease whilst holding the engine speed at about 2,000rpm. The more severe the blockage the faster the needle will fall. A normal reading would remain at 20in-hg or very slightly higher.

Please note 20in-hg is an example. A normal reading would be 17-22in-hg, and remember vacuum gauges are calibrated at sea level. You must subtract 1 in-hg for every 1,000ft of elevation.

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - edlithgow

In addition to the "classic" causes already discussed (which, with the partial exception of a blocked exhaust, which is only likely with a cat-equipped car, and cambelt) could apply to any car from WW1 onwards), it could be an engine management system problem causing the engine to run rich and be down on power.

I dont have much experience with this technology, but, for example, dirt on your Mass Airflow Sensor (if your car has one) could perhaps generate these symptoms.

I understand the usual initial approach with this newer stuff is to run diagnostics with a code reader, which will give you (probably Delphic and hugely misleading)) trouble codes.

Good luck.

Edited by edlithgow on 23/02/2023 at 04:54

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - bathtub tom

In addition to the "classic" causes already discussed (which, with the partial exception of a blocked exhaust, which is only likely with a cat-equipped car, and cambelt)

I had a blocked exhaust on a Kia Pride (almost in your territory Ed) that was caused by corrosion in the back box, allowing the wadding to block the silencer outlet. Spent an hour with a wire clothes hanger, bent into a hook on the end, fishing it all out.

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - John F

Blocked exhaust is a possibility, but at only 45,000 miles? A slipping clutch would be obvious as already mentioned but, again, unlikely at such a low mileage unless a really unsympathetic driver. Burning clutch material smells completely different to petrol. It almost certainly isn't either the alternator or the cambelt.

What about an HT problem resulting in no spark at one of the plugs? I would have thought the rough running on only three cylinders would be noticeable, but still something that hasn't been mentioned and worth checking.

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - Railroad.

The first thing any engine, petrol or diesel has to do is draw air. If it can't then it will also pull less fuel. This is true with both carburettor engines and those that have electronic engine management fuel injection. Less air coupled with less fuel equals less power. The engine must also be easily able to disperse of the burnt air and fuel via the exhaust. If the engine can't breathe out then it won't be able to breathe in. Simple as that. A vacuum gauge will tell you if the air intake or the exhaust is blocked. Yes it's true that the most likely blockage in the exhaust will be the catalyst, and the OP's car will have one since all UK petrol engine cars have had to have them since they became a legal requirement in 1992. But I have seen plenty of exhaust silencers blocked too so I wouldn't dismiss that either. The car has done 45,000 miles, but it's also 14 years old. That's low mileage for its age, suggesting it does a lot of short trips, so nothing can be ruled out there.

I don't know what engine is fitted in this car but I do know the 1.4 litre DOHC Ecotec engine did have issues with sticking valves. New modified valves were recommended along with the need to reamer the valve guides. That would log a fault code P0300 Random Misfire, so if the OP gets that it maybe worth looking into.

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - edlithgow

In addition to the "classic" causes already discussed (which, with the partial exception of a blocked exhaust, which is only likely with a cat-equipped car, and cambelt)

I had a blocked exhaust on a Kia Pride (almost in your territory Ed) that was caused by corrosion in the back box, allowing the wadding to block the silencer outlet. Spent an hour with a wire clothes hanger, bent into a hook on the end, fishing it all out.

Well, I didn't say it was impossible, only less likely than with a cat.

I had some drivability problems with the Skywing which I thought might be due to my habit of putting bits of beer can and a little Portland cement in the exhaust downpipe, for internal rust inhibition.

Since I dont have an oxygen sensor, I made myself a wee spacer and side pipe to go in the first exhaust pipe junction, and measured back pressure with a gauge.

Seemed ok, but, since the problem was intermittent, couldnt exclude something loose occaisionally blocking the exhaust.

Disconnected the pipe at the first juntion and back-flushed it with a hose up the rear end (Nurse, The Screens). Got lots of small bits, and a beer can top out. These are thicker than the rest of the can and this one had apparently resisted melting long enough to end up in the back box.

Wasn't that though. Went away after painting a few coats of sunflower oil on the intake plumbing, so was probably a gasket vacuum leak.

(Matiz is Daewoo here. Globalisation or something.

Actually I suppose it might be there too but not labelled as such)

Edited by edlithgow on 24/02/2023 at 05:02

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - Adampr

(Matiz is Daewoo here. Globalisation or something.

Actually I suppose it might be there too but not labelled as such)

They were originally Daewoo here, then the 'marketing gurus' at GM decided to rebrand all Daewoo models as Chevrolet. If anything, that made them less popular.

Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - Vikingmike

Mon 20 Feb 2023 14:56 Useless female
Your question was:
My matiz has been fine for the few months I’ve had it. 14 years old but only 45k on the clock.
Normally it would zip up a big hill at 60/70mph but over the last couple of weeks it’s been struggling to get uphill.
Last time I drove it it struggled to make 20mph on the hills and was slow on the flat and there was an awful strong ‘fuel’ smell when I tried to push it.

My experience has been:
I had strong fuel smell in my Matiz and lack of power. Believe it or not, it turns out that one of the spark plugs had become unscrewed enough to allow fuel to leak out and could be smelt in the car and power was affected as well. Turns out that spark plugs have to be tightened with a very narrow headed wrench to allow it to tighten the plug. Also, the high tension leads had decayed to a point where it was making it run rough and also added to the lack of power.
Chevrolet Matiz - General advise about lack of power going uphill - Railroad.
Mon 20 Feb 2023 14:56 Useless female Your question was: My matiz has been fine for the few months I’ve had it. 14 years old but only 45k on the clock. Normally it would zip up a big hill at 60/70mph but over the last couple of weeks it’s been struggling to get uphill. Last time I drove it it struggled to make 20mph on the hills and was slow on the flat and there was an awful strong ‘fuel’ smell when I tried to push it. My experience has been: I had strong fuel smell in my Matiz and lack of power. Believe it or not, it turns out that one of the spark plugs had become unscrewed enough to allow fuel to leak out and could be smelt in the car and power was affected as well. Turns out that spark plugs have to be tightened with a very narrow headed wrench to allow it to tighten the plug. Also, the high tension leads had decayed to a point where it was making it run rough and also added to the lack of power.

A loose spark plug would sound like a chuffing steam train, as well as an engine misfire which the OP has not mentioned. The engine would also misfire if a plug lead had gone down, more so under load. It won't be any of these if the engine runs smoothly albeit very under powered.