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Toyota vs Kia - notagoodname
Our trusty second car - a 14 year old 1.8 petrol Avensis (approaching 200k miles) will probably need replacing later this year. It’s been utterly dependable - still on the original clutch. The obvious choice in replacing it would be a 1.8 petrol 2014ish Avensis estate - however they’re a bit thin on the ground. I know they’re different but how does the Kia Sportage compare in terms of longevity/dependability? Any forum members who have experience of both makes? Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Toyota vs Kia - nellyjak
Unless you have an urge/desire to change then I'd stick with the make you know...Kia are really excellent vehicles these days but, for me, Toyota would always come first.
I confess, as I have done many times..lol, that I am an out and out Toyota fan and buy nowt else...but that's borne out by the outstanding satisfaction and reliability I've always enjoyed.

Good luck with whatever you choose.
Toyota vs Kia - thunderbird

Had neither but have had an interest in buying both in the past and more recently.

Past experience with Kia was back in 2008 and the sales staff showed no interest at all. They passed us the keys but after looking at the car (Ceed hatch) we were totally underwhelmed by the cheap looking interior (our 10 year old Focus was way better) so walked away. As I say that was 12 years ago but see later.

In 2008 the Auris was certainly a much nicer car than the Ceed but the sales staff were in truth very pushy but unable to even provide a test drive, claimed they had sold all the demonstrators with no more for another 2 months.

We walked and bought another Focus.

A few weeks ago we had a test drive in a Corolla Estate. Nice enough but it gave both me and the wife a terrible ache in the right ankle. We have booked another (longer) drive with the same dealer this coming Thursday to try and find a comfy position but if we cannot its off the list. At present its clearly the top "sensible" buy if we can get comfy.

Since we drove the Corolla we went to look at the Ceed plug in estate. No need to drive it, they have totally spoilt it as a load lugger. The standard Ceed estate has a 625 litre boot with space for a spare. The plug in has a boot capacity of 437 litres with no space for a spare.

The wifes Fabia hatch has a 350 litre boot with a full size spare stowed under the floor. Sit a spare on the boot floor in the Ceed plug in and it will be smaller than the Fabia. How that for a clever design.

So I will say this. Toyota's design team are way ahead of Kia. The Corolla boot will carry a spare under the floor and still have 580 litres even in the 2 litre which looses some litres due to the bigger batteries.

If Kia's designers are so complacent as to consider that a 437 litre boot is big enough in an estate then they will sell very few examples.

Toyota vs Kia - gordonbennet

Suggest you check out Fullchat's post,

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/136020/kia-sportag...7--

Click on the links to the pics especially the ones taken at 2 years old of the brake calipers on his car, your question is answered.

Toyota vs Kia - paul 1963

Not impressed by Kia at all and after reading fullchats experience I wouldn't go near one ( no offence ORB)...

Edited by paul 1963 on 24/07/2020 at 19:20

Toyota vs Kia - _

Not impressed by Kia at all and after reading fullchats experience I wouldn't go near one ( no offence ORB)...

No offence taken... BUT, my local Kia dealer (underwoods Colchester) are pretty good nowadays, I have had the rio and the venga serviced with them, all satisfactory so far.

Sportage too young to be serviced yet, but they know in advance that I know what i am talking about.

Car dealers are of an amazing disparity..

Toyota vs Kia - Heidfirst

Car dealers are of an amazing disparity..

This. If you have a Toyota dealer (or independent specialist) that you are happy with then, if you can find a Toyota model that ticks your boxes, I would suggest sticking with them.

However, it would also be worth canvassing opinion of the local Kia dealer in case they too are better than most.

Toyota vs Kia - paul 1963

Maybe my earlier remark was a bit harsh, think ORB has hit the nail on the head, the dealer/ servicing garage need to understand your the boss when it comes to looking after YOUR car what ever the brand...

Toyota vs Kia - Engineer Andy

Not impressed by Kia at all and after reading fullchats experience I wouldn't go near one ( no offence ORB)...

No offence taken... BUT, my local Kia dealer (underwoods Colchester) are pretty good nowadays, I have had the rio and the venga serviced with them, all satisfactory so far.

Sportage too young to be serviced yet, but they know in advance that I know what i am talking about.

Car dealers are of an amazing disparity..

It just goes to show that finding a good dealer is STILL the most important part of the car buying / owning experience.

TBH that's why I've had a generally good experience owning a Mazda (and because it's a non-rotary N/A petrol engined car) - many of my fellow forum members on the Mazda 3 'owners club' regularly document tales of woe as regards their local main dealer.

Toyota vs Kia - ifekas

If looking at reliability alone stick with Toyota, particularly if you don't change your car often; the Toyotas will tend to depreciate slowly which makes them poorer value second hand, but over a longer period it could work in your favour. Although KIA has reasonable servicing costs, the Toyotas tend to be slightly cheaper.

For me where Toyota misses out is that some the cars can be very dull and uninteresting to drive. Before I got the Ceed I looked at the Auris but the handling, interior and stereo were poor in comparison, not to mention the acceleration! The Yaris hybrid was top of the list when the i20 was being replaced, but the Picanto won despite the Yaris having huge amount more usable space (particularly the boot) as the interior of the Yaris was 'not nice'. I thought the front of the Yaris with the X type grille looks really nice, but that apparently wasn't enough to redeem it. We have been more than happy with our choices, so much so that I have kept my Ceed for much longer than I had planned. If I had bought the Auris would I have replaced it by now? Almost certainly, but nothing to do with its reliability.

Toyota vs Kia - daveyK_UK
Toyota are the best
Toyota vs Kia - targen

Toyotas are certainly the best........Toyotas...... im sure they will prove that one day by introducing a 7 year warranty....

Toyota vs Kia - Heidfirst

Toyotas are certainly the best........Toyotas...... im sure they will prove that one day by introducing a 7 year warranty....

You can already get one - in fact you can get up to at least 12 years (15 years for a hybrid drive battery) as an official Toyota Extended Warranty in the UK . How do Kia's official Extended Warranties fair ...? :P

Toyota vs Kia - targen

Well...the extra 2 years are free....so quite well....

Toyota vs Kia - Avant

I've heard stories of how Toyota are less likely to quibble over warranty claims than Kia.

But for all makes of car, the best risk-averse course is to have a car serviced by an authorised dealer while it's under new-car warranty. I appreciate that that's expensive, but it might save money, not to mention hassle, long-term.

Toyota vs Kia - targen

Actually I find the reverse is true...I work for a group with both brands