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How do people holiday with a campervan? - Warning

Do people use it to travel in the UK or it is Europe?

What are the pros and cons of travelling with a campervan versus say a car?

I flicked though a magazing and campervans are quite expensive. You can easily stay in a lot of hotels for that money.

Are there lots of places to stay overnight in a campervan?

Does a campervan restrict what you can and can't do?

How do people holiday with a campervan? - Terry W

A campervan probably has a sink, hob, fridge oven and (possibly), beds, shower and toilet, evening seating etc + space for tents, bikes.. Most of this is absent from the average car!!

Rather more seriously I suspect camper vans (and caravans) are for those who enjoy outdoor life and countryside. They are expensive and if making a purely financial judgement have relatively little to offer compared to a couple of weeks on the Med in a hotel.

Where they win out is for families in both UK and Europe and "oldies" who can spend several weeks or months touring around. They are also good for several weekends away.

However I would personally go for a caravan as the car can be separated and driven locally without packing away all equipment. The alternative would be to tow a smart car or similar.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - badbusdriver

Do people use it to travel in the UK or it is Europe?

Both

What are the pros and cons of travelling with a campervan versus say a car?

Depends on the size of the camper, some are enormous, some (like the VW California) take up no more road space than a Merc E Class estate. A big camper will be tricky to drive on country lanes, or anywhere the roads are a bit narrow.

I flicked though a magazing and campervans are quite expensive. You can easily stay in a lot of hotels for that money.

Yes, they are very expensive, even older ones!

Are there lots of places to stay overnight in a campervan?

Yes, camp sites.

Does a campervan restrict what you can and can't do?

If you have a car and caravan, you can park your caravan in the camp site and use it as a base. You can then use the car to see local places of interest. With a camper, unless wherever you are visiting is on a bus route, or close enough to walk or cycle, you have to take the whole thing away every time. For one person, or maybe a couple, that might not be much of an issue, but for a family, i'd say a car and caravan would be more useable and useful.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - barney100

Had one for few years. Toyota Hi Ace. thing is you can get it where you can get a car so you can tour with ease, You need to be organised but it can be good fun. you need to use it regularly to make it worthwhile but you they don't depreciate anything like as fast as the average car.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - T Lucas

Spent the last two winters in Spain in a Merc Sprinter camper.We have bikes for exploring locally and never stay on campsites.

Roll on October till June for more of the same (subject to Little Englander Posh Tory Boy Brexit) making it a problem.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - edlithgow

Not QUITE on topic, but I lived in a series of them, mostly illegally, for a few years while working in Treasury and Capital Markets IT support in London.

First an ex- BT workshop truck, huge thing with shower and a lot of space, terrifying to reverse, then a compact and bijou demountable Romahome on a Honda Acty pickup truck, then a High-top 1600 Transit.

I had a few legal interludes on municipal campsites (Caravan Club sites were a bit too Terry and June for the workshop which was probably a bit too New Age Traveller. (remember them?).

I bought the Transit off some Australians, who used to specialise in vanning around Europe. A looong time ago there was a colony of them camping out while selling the vans in the Älternative Car Park behind the South Bank / Festival Hal complex, but that kind of behaviour didn't survive the Rise of the Tidy Minds.

It was pretty knackered and probably well underpowered to start with. They shouldn't really have made a 1600 Hi-top Transit.

The best was undoubtedly the Acty. Amazingly space and fuel efficient, though I was always conscious while driving it that my thigh bones were the crumple zone. I was quite annoyed when it got knicked.

Parked on the street you had to be pretty discrete, and a camper probably wasn't the best choice because of the windows. If I was doing it again (probably not possible with current surveillance levels and parking controls) I'd get a Leyland DAF ex-Parcel Force van (which were being sold off toward the end of this period) and put French Windows behind the roller-door, for stealth with an fresco style option.

Maybe add some ""Ëds Veggies" logo's to discourage break ins, which happened a lot.

Edited by edlithgow on 23/06/2019 at 12:22

How do people holiday with a campervan? - madf

Proper camping vans tow a car for local sightseeing..

An Aston Martin Cygnet makes an ideal shopping/town car when seeing how the plebs live.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - RT

Proper camping vans tow a car for local sightseeing..

An Aston Martin Cygnet makes an ideal shopping/town car when seeing how the plebs live.

Unless it's on a trailer, that's illegal is much of Europe and a grey area in the UK.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - edlithgow

Proper camping vans tow a car for local sightseeing..

An Aston Martin Cygnet makes an ideal shopping/town car when seeing how the plebs live.

Unless it's on a trailer, that's illegal is much of Europe and a grey area in the UK.

Grey areas are where you want to be. Not many of them left.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - CHarkin

None of the possible option are universal and you really need to know what you are going to use it for before deciding. If going and staying on a campsite for a week a caravan makes sense but if you are touring and want to stay in a different place every night a camper van works best. If like us you want to get off the beaten track the smaller VW type vans work best on narrow often single track roads. Caravans and wild camping are not a good mix. Unless you are going to use a camper van a lot its cheaper to hire than own.

Our experience is from traveling in the north of england and mainly Scotland. In the north of Scotland wild camping is legal and easy, very few "no overnight parking" signs and most places are deserted for a big part of the year. We have spent the night in the middle of stunning scenery with not another human being for miles around. Staying at a B&B for an odd night gives you a chance to get a proper shower and shop for supples.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - daveyjp
A recently retired colleague probably had what I would have. A camper van on a short wheel base Fiat Ducato chassis.

It was his only vehicle, but at just under 5m long was more than adequate for two, yet could be parked in almost any car park without a height barrier and was no problem to drive even on the narrowest of Scottish highland roads.
How do people holiday with a campervan? - T Lucas

With LWB van you have room for fixed double bed,hot shower,toilet,cooker,fridge,seating area,underfloor fresh and waste water tanks +25 litre LPG tank for cooking/heating etc.

Any van is always going to be a trade off against size/budget/comfort and size of roof to fit as many solar panels as you can!

How do people holiday with a campervan? - edlithgow

Retired ambulances offer good quality bodywork (probably better than the average for purpose-built campers) at a budget price, and after conversion MIGHT even be sufficiently "respectable" for the Caravan Club..

Unfortunately, when I was looking, they were mostly V8 and likely to be difficult to insure. Ditto ex-police vans.

That has probably changed.

If you want the full-on American-stylee "Moblehome" experience at a cut-price, look out for retired libraries.

I looked at two that were in much better knick and much cheaper than the Winnibago I also looked at, but I decided they were too huge and indiscrete for what I was planning to do with them

When I was on one campsite in North London my neighbours on the next pitch had a former East German Army 6-wheel drive command truck. Not very low profile either, though it was camouflaged, and apparently armoured (!), so perhaps that didn't matter. Probably do OK on Scottish Highland tracks, but fuelling it....!

Edited by edlithgow on 24/06/2019 at 04:25

How do people holiday with a campervan? - edlithgow

I've seen an "instant camper" made by mounting the body of a towed caravan (I think minus the frame, though I suppose that's not essential) on a small flat-bed lorry.

You can pick up old caravans for buttons.

Not a bad idea, if you don't mind driving a lorry, but I doubt the Caravan Club would approve.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - SLO76
Often fancied one but the crippling cost of buying one would fund multiple foreign holidays in the sun every year for pretty much the rest of my life. I just don’t see how they add up financially.

Dealers demand huge margins on them (typically 25%) and although strong demand means they’ll sell on you’ll still lose loads of cash. I’ve had friends with them, most recently one who finally decided it wasn’t worth the outlay anymore and tried to sell it. No one would pay its £22k asking price privately but dealers were typically offering more like £15-£16k for it, a heavy loss on what he’d paid originally and again far more than multiple luxury holidays for each year he had it.

Edited by SLO76 on 24/06/2019 at 11:04

How do people holiday with a campervan? - John F

Drive it to the car park of your luxury hotel. Check in. Enjoy your holiday. Then drive it back to where you got it from.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - edlithgow

My BT workshop conversion, which was mechanically and structurally in very good condition, cost me 1800 quid. Saved me at least 10.000 in London rent, Insurance paid out 1600 when it was stolen.

The Acty was 600. Transit (not a good buy really) IIRC 900, with rental savings of about the same but no insurance payouts

To beat those economics in any other auto trading way I'd probably have had to buy and sell a Ferrari California or two at exactly the right time.

OTOH it distracted me from getting a mortgage, which would have been a smarter move.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - RT

It's difficult for working age people to get full value from motorhomes or caravans, unless going away most weekends as well as holidays suits your lifestyle - we're retired and spend the spring/summer/autumn on the basis of away for a month, home for a month - so away about 22 weeks/year - we just couldn't afford that in a hotel, guest house etc .

I'ver often considered the freedom of a motorhome but alkwaysa decided to stick with car+caravan - a luxurious SUV so I can get places no motorhome or campervan ever could.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - focussed

Motorhomes or as the french call them "camping cars" are very popular in France, not many towed "tin tents" seen about. You can wander about all over France and park for free overnight in most places - or a very small fee in the communal aires.

Water, rubbish disposal, toilets, toilet disposal, and electricity hookup usually available.

https://offtracktravel.ca/how-to-camp-for-free-france-aires-de-service/

How do people holiday with a campervan? - edlithgow

It's difficult for working age people to get full value from motorhomes or caravans...

Depends.

I (admittedly about 25 years ago) was offered a nice wee caravan, in apparently good condition, but no shower, for 40 quid.

Would have liked to take it, but I didn't have anywhere to keep it.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - John Boy

I know someone who recently sold a low mileage VW T25 campervan for the price he paid for it 14 years ago. He didn't advertise it - an enthusiast knocked on the door and asked if it was for sale.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - Leif

We had a VW camper van (Dormobile) for years when I was growing up. We used it for daily transport, and when going round France and Devon on holiday. You could just park in a lay by and stay the night, or find a camp site with loos and showers, though the loos in French camp sites back then were rather rustic. I loved it, but a few years ago I had a lift in a colleagues VW van, and I was taken back at how crude it was. You are the crumple zone, the sound proofing is poor, the construction is basic and so on.

I think these days you are better off using a B&B unless you spend a lot of time travelling. If you are on your own, it might still be cheaper to use a B&B given the poor mpg and the cost of insurance, maintenance and depreciation (which might not be an issue for an old one).

How do people holiday with a campervan? - dan86

When we went to the isle of wight in the May half term there was a family with an American RV ,big thing with double rear axle the size of coach.

It was nice with all the amenities of a family home as the side came out to extend the living area.

But with a 6.3 litre straight 6 Cummins engine and a 6 speed Allison automatic it was incredibly thirsty circa 6 mpg the owner said.

Also completely impractical to drive around and visit places.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - Leif
Probably amazing in Americaland, cheap petrol, big roads, wide open spaces. I suppose the turning circle was the Isle of Wight?
How do people holiday with a campervan? - Metropolis.
Even in America they’ll often tow an ordinary car or pickup truck behind it for travelling once you reach the destination.
How do people holiday with a campervan? - T Lucas

we use bikes to explore but many people use scooters or small motorbikes.

Lots of people tow a car on a 2 or 4 wheel trailer and i have even seen a few people mostly Germans carry a Smart Car in a garage at the back of the van that comes out on a remote control loading platform.

How do people holiday with a campervan? - dan86
Probably amazing in Americaland, cheap petrol, big roads, wide open spaces. I suppose the turning circle was the Isle of Wight?

To be fair it did have rear wheel steer and if it's anything like on my lorry its nearly half the turning circle.

But yes probably best suited to its homeland where you could probably fit it through the McDonald's drive through.