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Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - capricorn

I'm in the market for a new car and being patriotic would like to buy a car that is as British as it can be given ownership and where components are sourced from.

Am interested in any one of the above cars but can anyone tell me which contains a British built engine and if steel from UK steel mills is used in the production of body panels etc. in any/all of these vehicles?

Cheers.

Edited by capricorn on 20/02/2018 at 10:24

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - Steveieb

Would imagine the two Japanese cars have the biggest UK content, with the Civic probably having the highest.

Understand Honda are planning to centre world production of the Civic in the UK and since they are the only manufacturer listed here that have received virtually no government assistance unlike Renault Nissan , Toyota and vauxhall they are the company to be supported.

Vauxhall are now owned by Peugeot and Nissan Qashqai have mostly Renault underpinnings, the choice narrows considerably.

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - Falkirk Bairn

Where a car is assembled only gives an idea of where all the bits come from.

New Civic designed & assembled in UK.

However my CRV was built in Swindon - UK steel body, UK engine, UK seats, UK Battery.........

Japanese gearbox, Hungarian glass, Dunlop tyres (Japan), electronics has parts from all around the world with final assembly being anywhere. It has been 100% reliable.

I bought mats & bootliner for my CRV when new - mats Holland, rubber bootliner Israel, locking nuts USA

Astra will all be imported innards of engine, gbox from other plants in the Opel/GM empire & local assembly in the North of England.

Toyota Auris & Avensis Derby assembly, North Wales Engine, UK Steel - However some models of Auris made in Turkey.

Nissan in Sunderland are UK assembly, UK steel, Renault engines, Renault electrics.....

Mini - Lots made in UK but some are Dutch (old Daf/volvo/Mitsu factory) or Austria (Steyr Puch) UK BMW Engine, UK Steel, but parts from anywhere

A car is a complex beast of assembly from all over the world.

Looked at a Marks & Spencer Harris Tweed jacket - Scottish / British manufacture? NO

(I was not buying just passing time when SWMBO goes shopping...hours pass and 1/2 of what she buys is returned)

Scottish wool, Natural dyes from lichens, plants etc, woven in the Hebrides. Then the cloth was shipped to China -cutting. tailoring, sewing, buttons, linings ..all Chinese.

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - John F

You could be just as patriotic by buying an initially expensive old car for much less the price of a new one from a British vendor and spend the money you have saved providing labour for Brits to MoT, service and repair it when necessary.

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - capricorn

I have a 16 reg. trade-in so won't be buying anything older than that of course.

As for servicing well whatever I buy will need that and will be done in the UK clearly.

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - Mr Carrot Cake

Then the mechanics go out and buy iPhones with their wages ;-)

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - gordonbennet
Looked at a Marks & Spencer Harris Tweed jacket - Scottish / British manufacture? NO

(I was not buying just passing time when SWMBO goes shopping...hours pass and 1/2 of what she buys is returned)

Scottish wool, Natural dyes from lichens, plants etc, woven in the Hebrides. Then the cloth was shipped to China -cutting. tailoring, sewing, buttons, linings ..all Chinese.

Hence why that shop no longer interests me, and thanks for the post, i'll be looking for a new Harris Tweed jacket and waistcoat in the near future (height of fashion me:-) and it's going to be a real one, again, any suggestions welcome.

off topic i know.

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - Avant

GB - You can order online from the Harris Tweed Shop (www.harristweedshop.com) - not cheap but mine looks as if it will last. The label claims that it's been 'hand-woven in the Outer Hebrides from 100% pure wool'.

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - gordonbennet

Thanks Avant, the Iain jacket and waistcoat look identical to my present ones which have give sterling service, bought from a shop somewhere away up in the Highlands when we were on holiday one year, we visited in my lovely old W124 Merc Diesel as it happens.

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - Auristocrat

The three door versions of the first generation Toyota Auris (2007-2012) were built in Turkey, and the five door versions at Burnaston, Derbyshire. The second generation Auris (December 2012 onwards) is built at Burnaston.

The Auris range has recently been trimmed down to the hybrid and 1.2T, due to the next, third generation being introduced late 2018/early 2019.

The Avensis is also built at Burnaston, but production finishes this month (February 2018).

Petrol and hybrid engines are built at Deeside, Flintshire.

Edited by Auristocrat on 20/02/2018 at 13:44

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - capricorn

Thanks for that detailed response.

It's a fact that auto manufacture is probably about as multi-national as you can get but as someone with an engineering background and is (sadly) old enought to remember when we built ships, cars and lots more besides and had a huge steel industry I would at least like to support what we have left.

I was inclined towards the Auris, as my son-in-law has a Toyota Corolla which is now 12 years old with 90k on the clock and has been ultra reliable, but if a new model is on the way maybe I should hold off for a while.

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - movilogo

>> being patriotic would like to buy a car that is as British

Then build your own inside garden shed :-)

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - Falkirk Bairn

>> but if a new model is on the way maybe I should hold off for a while.

Buy the new model at full price or 25-30% off the outgoing model which has all the gremlins solved!

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - coopshere
The ultimate patriotic way would be a classic. How about a Charlie Ware Morris Minor. www.morrisminor.org.uk
Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - capricorn

I had looked at that and indeed it is similar to my last car which was pre-registered and around £3k cheaper than list so it is an appealing idea.

I've had lots of diesels over the years (first one in 1990 a Rover with a 2L Perkins engine and the last a Peugeot in 2011. However, as the dreaded DPF is now fitted to diesels (I had a problem with the Peugeot DPF) I have now abandoned diesel for ever!

Whilst looking at Honda Civics at a local dealer I was astonished to see the huge reduction in the price of diesel models on sale for example a 17reg. 1.6 I-DTEC SE PLUS apparently reduced from £21k to £16.5k and there were quite a few more with similar reductions and all with low mileage.

Is that because diesels are not selling or has the model changed or soon changing?

If only I wanted a diesel!!

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - catsdad
The Civic was replaced last year but these diesels will be the old Version I suspect.
Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - Bolt

I had looked at that and indeed it is similar to my last car which was pre-registered and around £3k cheaper than list so it is an appealing idea.

I've had lots of diesels over the years (first one in 1990 a Rover with a 2L Perkins engine and the last a Peugeot in 2011. However, as the dreaded DPF is now fitted to diesels (I had a problem with the Peugeot DPF) I have now abandoned diesel for ever!

Whilst looking at Honda Civics at a local dealer I was astonished to see the huge reduction in the price of diesel models on sale for example a 17reg. 1.6 I-DTEC SE PLUS apparently reduced from £21k to £16.5k and there were quite a few more with similar reductions and all with low mileage.

Is that because diesels are not selling or has the model changed or soon changing?

If only I wanted a diesel!!

Honda have reworked the diesel 1.6, to make the exhaust cleaner, its power output is the same and its fuel economy.

I`ve no idea what they did to it as all the specs appear the same, Civic on sale now are the old one but as I say the reworked version appears the same, any correction is welcome as I would like to know

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - V4 Heaven
If you buy a Civic I will buy you a pint next time you're in North Wiltshire as my daughter works at the Honda Factory!
Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - colinh

The recent article on the Mini crankshaft's journey was interesting for a "British" car:

Cast in France

Machined in Birmingham

Assembled into engine in Austria

Engine assembled into car in Oxford

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - Falkirk Bairn

Alternative

Buy a car from the larget British owned car maker!

Morgan - made in Worcester.

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - SLO76

Alternative

Buy a car from the larget British owned car maker!

Morgan - made in Worcester.

Uses imported BMW and Ford engines...
Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - Falkirk Bairn

>>Uses imported BMW and Ford engines...

Ford make engines in Dagenham & South Wales

BMW make engines in Birmingham

I do not know the specific engines in Morgans come from which BMW/Ford plant but probbaly UK made.

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - colinh

"BMW make engines in Birmingham"

Not "make" - assembled from parts made elsewhere - which is the story of the British car industry. Also a big problem post-Brexit because of the trade agreement rules regarding the percentage of country of origin for parts

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - Brit_in_Germany

Morgan - made in Worcester.

Close - Malvern to be more accurate.

Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - SLO76
A large part of the reason why mass car manufacturing continues to thrive in the UK is because we have a large competitive component design and manufacturing base these firms can draw on. Yes not everything is made here but a good deal of it is.
Astra/Auris/Qashqai/Civic - British built? - capricorn
A large part of the reason why mass car manufacturing continues to thrive in the UK is because we have a large competitive component design and manufacturing base these firms can draw on. Yes not everything is made here but a good deal of it is.

I fear the effect of Brexit on British motor manufacturing/assembley and very much hope the government can broker a good/free trade deal if possible.

Engineering was a huge industry when I was a youth and many of my peers went into apprenticeships sadly now virtually gone it seems.