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N/A - Help me de-bunk a myth about driving in floods? - Project C

Hi all

Years ago my Dad always told me you could drive a diesel through a flooded road but not a petrol car. Now I'm due to be driving more frequently on a road liable to flooding, is this true or just a myth? And if it is true would it apply to older diesels rather than newer ones?

Cheers

N/A - Help me de-bunk a myth about driving in floods? - bathtub tom

Theoretically an old diesel with a mechanical fuel injection system 'could' be driven with the engine under water as long as the air intake remains above. No electrics to get wet.

I've seen a diesel run totally submerged, but wouldn't attempt it myself.

In practice however water could get into the sump though any breather, oil filler and dipstick gaps where it wouldn't do a lot of good.

I've seen damage to differentials from water ingress. They often have a breather. I assume that if after a run they're immersed, the sudden lowering of temperature causes water to be drawn in the breather.

N/A - Help me de-bunk a myth about driving in floods? - RobJP

You can drive either type of engine'd car through reasonably dep water, as long as your speed, revs, etc are appropriate for the conditions.

Basically, if the water would be covering your feet (so 4" or so of depth), then you should be in as low a gear as possible, and at walking pace or slightly faster. If the depth is closing in on knee-deep, then you really shouldn't be proceeding, unless you really know what you're doing, and you know exactly where the air intake is, and at what height. There is, as tom says, a chance of damage to gearboxes, diffs, etc through breather pipes.

I've driven a Range Rover through 3 feet of water before now - basically, it was splashing over the bonnet. However, this was one of LR's own vehicles, and on their 'official' off-road route, with one of their staff in the passenger seat, telling me to carry on. I told him that if it went wrong, I was leaving through the sunroof !

Not something I'd be willing to do in my own vehicle though.

N/A - Help me de-bunk a myth about driving in floods? - RT

Most modern cars, including un-modified SUVs have their engine air intake so low they'd suck water into the engine which wrecks it when the crank tries to compress it.

SUVs which may go off-road sometimes have a "snorkel" intake fitted - but otherwise treat any wading depth specified in the handbook with utmost respect - and remember that speed creates a bow wave which increases the effective depth of the water.

Another factor to consider is that modern cars have doors which seal well enough to create flotation if the water is above a certain depth - this reduces weight/traction/grip on the wheels and if there's water flowing across can cause the car to go off the road - I wouldn't take a conventional car through water if I though it was more than 8" (200mm) deep.

N/A - Help me de-bunk a myth about driving in floods? - TedCrilly

Older diesels don't have the electrical ignition systems that petrol and modern diesels do. Consequently they are not as susceptible to the effects of water. Perhaps it is this that's behind the logic. However the fact remains, if water is ingested, diesel or petrol, the outcome will be the same......serious damage.

The air intake is where water is most likely to enter, my advice would be to get something that has one mounted high up.

N/A - Help me de-bunk a myth about driving in floods? - Bolt

IMO best advice is go a different way, floods are unpredictable as my mate found out, he went through a lane but didnt know the drain into the field had been washed away and lost the car in the field he was lucky to escape

He was in a Rover 1994 2.0 diesel, car was written off about 2 years ago

N/A - Help me de-bunk a myth about driving in floods? - bazza

Very bad for the car though, especially wheel bearings. Water gets in and emulsifies the grease, they're not water-proof. That's why passenger side wheel bearings typically fail sooner, driving through all the kerbside water. Expect to replace such components more often if you're driving on habitually very wet roads.

N/A - Help me de-bunk a myth about driving in floods? - madf

Anyone who goes through deep water may very well get through but all the low lying engine bits will be possibly soaked. Think starter motors and alternators. After a few weeks, their connections will start to corrode. As will earth joints to chassis rails.

That is a sure fire way to having lots of annoying electrical probles.

Any car with ECUs mounted on the floor is especially vulnerable - see VW.

N/A - Help me de-bunk a myth about driving in floods? - Bromptonaut

To add to RobJP and RT's informed posts.

Deep water can kill people, never mind engines and electrics.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/weather/9239307/Driver-wh...l

I met the victim professionaly on a number of occasions and he was a personal friend of several then colleagues.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 12/11/2016 at 07:54

N/A - Help me de-bunk a myth about driving in floods? - brum

Project C should ignore what his Dad says, it is foolish advice.

Driving through anything more than 3 inches of water is potentially dangerous for any car /driver unless extreme care is taken at very slow speed.

While attempting this , you will probably lose braking, you may aquaplane losing steering control, vital components may get waterlogged, electrical and mechanical eg, belts that drive power steering altenators etc lose their drive capability.

You no longer will be able to judge any hazards, potholes, obstacles under water.

And drawing water in through a low air intake could kill the engine stone dead, irregardless if petrol or diesel.

The thermal shock of cold water on hot engine components/exhausts etc might cause costly damage.

Your insurance company will be most reluctant to pay out if you intentionally drive through a flooded road and have an accident, most will refuse to pay out for a waterdamaged engine/electrics caused by intentional stupidity.

N/A - Help me de-bunk a myth about driving in floods? - pinkpanther_75

Whether Petrol, or Diesel powered, the outcome of driving through water of unknown depth can be a risk

I've driven (slowly) through here many times, but these weren't so lucky: newarkadvertiser.co.uk/articles/news/Flooding-Vehi...f