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Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - LondonBus

My 2002 Tino is at 91k miles. Didn't have cash to replace it (I don't do loans) and have just coughed up 800 quid for our local Good Garage to replace the stretched timing chain. Ouch.

My plan is to save up £12-13k to buy a replacement vehicle. I'm 45; the next car needs to serve 12-14 years.

I'm looking for a petrol estate, manual tranmission. The Toyota Avensis looks appealing - but so does the Mazda 6 estate. The next car needs to get me up to my late 50s - and cope with university runs for my son (currently aged 12).

All sounds v long term - but I plan to keep the Tino until I have a nice wad of cash - probably 2.5 years and I'd like a 3 year old replacement.

I'd like the replacement vehicle to be a good vehicle for 3- 20 years of age. That means no diesels and no car that's a great fleet vehicle but an awful long term keeper.

I can live without a premium marque - but I'd like a "Daddy's car"- one your father would have had in the 1980s - a solid comfortable reliable vehicle.

Fords discourage me - they seem to have a (dual) mass of problems..

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - Wukl

On the same theme, an Accord Estate?

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - RobJP

You want solid, bomb-proof, but unfashionable ?

Subaru Legacy petrol estate.

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - LondonBus

Oooh. Looked at that. What are mainteance/petrol costs like?

Most of my journeys are short runs in London. But on the basis of buying and holding I need to keep a vehicle which can do long haul too.

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - skidpan

Subaru Legacy petrol estate.

Most of my journeys are short runs in London

Absolutely essential that you have 4 wheel drive. How anyone manages without it in London is a mystery to me.

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - madf

Official servicing of Subarus is c £350 a time except when diff oils need to be changed then £450.

Not cheap cars to run if paying a garage to do it..

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - klu01dbt
Sounds like a dacia Logan mcv would be perfect. Depending on your performance needs I'd get the 1.2 as it is well developed and reliable. Very simple, lots of space and not much to go wrong. Buy nearly new/ex demo and your still saving 5 grand+ on most alternatives.
Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - Oli rag

I would give the Dacia a miss myself, no one HERE has had one long enough to know what the long term ownership prospects are like.

Stick to Japanese or Korean, they're known (in petrol form) to be fairly bulletproof and have longevity.

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - gordonbennet

Short runs in city main use is going to be hard on any vehicle.

You want to buy in about 3 years a car aprox 3 years old and get a life of up to 20 years out of it, IMHO you'll be very lucky to do so, cars are simply not simple enough to last that long any more, that was the strength of the 90's era which are still giving good service by the thousand and they ain't going to make that mistake again.

If you're good at mechanics, can service your own for long life so every year without fail and gearbox/axle oils every other or third/fourth, then change the odd clutch, change a cambelt, maintain brakes properly (which almost no-one does) , change a rad or heater matrix, fix the odd cylinder head gasket etc etc, then you might squeeze 20 years out of something like an Avensis...but the electric parking brake will probably fail during the period so better brush up on how or who to fix that.

It would help if you have somewhere to park a cheap breaker to raid when the vast majority of your chosen steed are being scrapped, its things like ECU's (and those electric parking brake motors) window winders locks etc that are going to scrap most cars.

Oh and if you do go down this route, the first summer wash the underside thoroughly, wire brush any signs of rust and spend a whole weekend rustproofing it completely including inside all cavities doors sills wheelarches etc, we keep hearing the same cobblers being trotted out that cars don't rust any more, they do but people are too precious now to look underneath (some don't raise the bonnet) and few keep cars long enough for it to be a problem for them....suspension parts in particular, can cost an arm and leg to fix suspension issues because the bolts all rust in solid and can't be undone

If you need mechanics to do all the above then the chances are that the costs to keep from years 10 onwards will be harsh.

I've kept a Merc in superb condition from year 6 and its now 20, i daren't add up how much its cost, somewhere between 3 and 4 thousand in the last couple or three years alone, yes it should last another 20 and may well see us out if we keep it, but i have no illusions how much it will cost to keep it fettled to do so...and no a Merc is the very last car we should have done this with (hewn from granite my foot), should have found a low mileage Lexus 400 or imported a Camry/Crown.

Edited by gordonbennet on 08/05/2016 at 21:23

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - klu01dbt

I would give the Dacia a miss myself, no one HERE has had one long enough to know what the long term ownership prospects are like.

True, but I've not heard much bad from the continent where they go on forever, plus for the price, if it does go wrong after 10 years the op can buy a new replacement and still be better of than if he bought some of the more expensive alternatives. Any modern car is going to be a gamble to take to 18 years old, I would have thought the simpler the car the better. I'm currently doing something similar with a base spec fiat panda.
Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - Warning

Are you after Japanese brands? If so, put Honda Civic Tourer on your shortlist. I test drove a Honda Civic, and I liked it, but it was too small for me, but the Tourer may be perfect.

I did test drive a Toyato MPV, but I don't think Toyota's were enjoyable to drive.

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - LondonBus

Looking online, and setting my budget as £12k - £13k, mileage 15k - 36k and max age 3 years there are a number of petrol Civic Tourers and Avensis estates.

Good to have a savings target. With the new Mayor planning to extend the ULEZ to cover the north/south circular (I live 10 mins from Staples Corner) the Tino will have to go by mid 2019...

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - gordonbennet

Good to have a savings target. With the new Mayor planning to extend the ULEZ to cover the north/south circular (I live 10 mins from Staples Corner) the Tino will have to go by mid 2019...

Yes i read that somewhere earlier, not so good news for anyone who has to live or work there, sorry but brilliant news for me, i'll never have to darken London's doorstep again outside of any work related visit.

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - jc2

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All sounds v long term - but I plan to keep the Tino until I have a nice wad of cash - probably 2.5 years and I'd like a 3 year old replacement.

I'd like the replacement vehicle to be a good vehicle for 3- 20 years of age. That means no diesels and no car that's a great fleet vehicle but an awful long term keeper.

I can live without a premium marque - but I'd like a "Daddy's car"- one your father would have had in the 1980s - a solid comfortable reliable vehicle.

Fords discourage me - they seem to have a (dual) mass of problems..

Ford make plenty of other cars even diesels without dual mass flywheels.

Nissan Almera Tino - Old Car, New Car - LondonBus

Are the petrol Mondeos in this category? If Fords were as reliable as my Nissan has been I'd certainly consider them.