What is life like with your car? Let us know and win £500 in John Lewis vouchers | No thanks
Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - bumblebrown

Hello everyone

I recently bought a 05 StreetKA. Love the car but the fuel consumption is terrifying!

I only manage 240 miles on a full tank. I travel 60 miles a day of which 40 is motorway. I'm driving at 60 and trying REALLY hard to conserve fuel! Just part-exed a Fiat Grande Punto diesel for the StreetKA - mad I know- but didn't expect it to use as much fuel as this!!

I thought it may be worth checking the tyre pressure? I've been surfing the net but keep finding different results. I'm hoping somebody can help?

Thanks in advance!

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - unthrottled

Assuming a tank is 8 gallons, you're getting ~30mpg which is poor for a 30 mile trip. Low tyre pressures might cause ~5% increase in fuel consumption, so something else must be at play.

Check the usual suspects such as sticking brake calipers. and spark plugs electrodes for evidence of a rich fuel misture.

When you switch the ignition key on, the engine management light should briefly illuminate along with all the other functional lights (some of the lights may not be utilised for your model). If it doesn't the light has been disconnected because there is an underlying problem!

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - bumblebrown

Thanks for the speedy reply! No handbook so I don't know what the engine management light looks like. I'll strat her up shortly and check to see what lights up! Do you know what the tyre pressures should be? Would like to check them this weekend.

Thank you

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - craig-pd130

I don't know the exact pressures for your vehicle, there should a sticker either behind the fuel flap or on the driver's door frame that details the pressures.

If you can't find the sticker, generally for a small car the recommended tyre pressures are usually around 30 to 33psi (this has been the case with my old Fiesta, Escort, Puntos, current Corsa etc).

It could be something as simple as a dirty air-filter, which is easily remedied.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - thunderbird

The Street Ka had a poor reputation for fuel consumption (amongst other issues) from day one (as did its sister the Sport Ka). Old technology engines will never achieve the mpg figure modern ones do. The average on Honest Johns Real MPG page is only 33.7 mpg but 2 people I know who had them did not get figures as good as that. One actually rejected the car when it was less than a year old and Ford replaced it with a Focus.

But remember its cold at the moment and all cars do less mpg in this weather than they do in more normal temperatures. When the weather warms up your mpg should improve.

Also consider that previously you had a diesel car and on the type of motoring you are doing a petrol (however small) will not match those mpg figures (especially with the old school 1.6 petrol engine and 5 gears).

You cannot compare the 2 cars, totally different.

Edited by thunderbird on 25/01/2013 at 15:07

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - 72 dudes

I agree with unthrottled and thunderbird. Within 10 minutes of basic web rsearch I found many owner's comments about poor fuel consumption (and high road tax).

Having said that, you should be getting more than 31 MPG on the sort of journey you describe. Tank is 42 litres, assume a "brim to brim" of about 35 litres, 7.7 gallons)

Sticking brakes, clogged air filter as have been suggested would be the first things to check. Try a trusted independent garage to give it a once over if you're not sure.

Sounds like you might have bought with your heart, not your head!

Great looking fun car with a dog of an engine, sorry.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - bumblebrown

Thanks for the replies. I realise you can't compare, just didn't think there would be such a big difference! I'll check the tyre pressure this weekend and see if that helps. Not having a handbook/manual doesn't help either. In the meantime I'll wave to all the lorry drivers as they pass me on the motorway :)

Thanks again everyone

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - unthrottled

A dirty air filter won't affect consumption on an injected engine, you'll just have to open the throttle a little more.

The engine wasn't state of the art at the time, but it should do at least 35.( I get 40 from an 8V 1.6l lump in the winter and nearer 45 in the summer)

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - skidpan

Look at the posts on this link, exactly the same as your experience. Nothing wrong with your car, perfectly normal.

www.talkford.com/topic/165298-streetka-fuel-consum.../

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - Bobbin Threadbare

Might also be worth chucking in a can of cleaner into the fuel tank (Redex or somesuch) - we've had success with that before.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - madf

A full service - replacing all oils with suitable synthetic oils,

changing all filters,

checking and cleaning all brakes

checking exhaust system for leaks and/or blockages

Tyres for correct pressures

And engine for worn plugs and leads..

will be enough to minimise fuel consumption...

Check thermostat opens at correct temperature

And a delicate right foot..

And you might get 35mpg -in summer.

One tip: fule consumption is double normal when engine is cold - and it will take at least 2 miles to warm up - so no harsh accelration then.

And don't acclerate up hills.

Teaching grandmother to suck apologise eggs. rearrange.

Edited by madf on 25/01/2013 at 17:45

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - Collos25

In this weeks Autobild a gentleman has just successfully sued BMW because the actual consumption of his vehicle was lower than that stated by BMW in their blurb.He had the vehicle professionally tested the result is that the judge found in his favour and awarded him all his money back plus his expenses plus the difference in cost to buy the extra fuel.This will open the floodgates here in Germany and hopefully come to the UK.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - thunderbird

In this weeks Autobild a gentleman has just successfully sued BMW because the actual consumption of his vehicle was lower than that stated by BMW in their blurb.He had the vehicle professionally tested the result is that the judge found in his favour and awarded him all his money back plus his expenses plus the difference in cost to buy the extra fuel.This will open the floodgates here in Germany and hopefully come to the UK.

It will not happen. BMW will apeal and will win. The figures quoted are not BMW figures they are the official EU figures, how can you be sued for using figures you do not actually derive youself and have to quote by law.

Remeber the case in the staes a bit back where a lady won $100,000 dollars damages, she lost at appeal but that was not publicised.

But if it is upheld I want all my money back for all the cars I have ever bought since none have been as good as advertised. I should be able to retire on that little nest egg.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - Collos25

Not in Germany all signed and sealed.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - 72 dudes

A dirty air filter won't affect consumption on an injected engine, you'll just have to open the throttle a little more.

Same difference, opening the throttle a little more will use more fuel.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - thunderbird

Just done a Google. Plenty about the Honda case and the Kia/Hyundai refunds in the states but not one hit for a BMW case.

With regards to a dirty air filter it makes the engine run a little rich. A rich engine uses more fuel.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - unthrottled

With regards to a dirty air filter it makes the engine run a little rich. A rich engine uses more fuel.

This was true when carbs ruled the roost. MAFs and MAPS mean that your engine no longer richens up as air presssure drops.

Treacle-like aged oil won't help matters, but on a 30 mile trip, the effect won't be huge. Setting tyre pressures to ~35 psi all round, and an oil change might net 10% between them. Still not great. An ignition fault will manifest itself in lumpy idling or stumbling under acceleration before it affects cruise consumption. It's worth pulling plugs to check that they are all a nice even tan colour. Do the free checks first!

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - Collos25

Look in todays Autobild.de I have the hard copy but it should be in the Internet version.

Edited by Collos25 on 25/01/2013 at 19:47

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - Collos25

http://www.nw-news.de/owl/kreis_lippe/detmold/detmold/7459857_Zu_hoher_Verbrauch_Mann_muss_weniger_fuer_sein_Auto_zahlen.html

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - Bobbin Threadbare

Just done a Google. Plenty about the Honda case and the Kia/Hyundai refunds in the states but not one hit for a BMW case.

With regards to a dirty air filter it makes the engine run a little rich. A rich engine uses more fuel.

Today's Telegraph Motoring section has a letter to HJ about the Kia/Hyundai redress in Canada...

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - thunderbird

Just done a Google. Plenty about the Honda case and the Kia/Hyundai refunds in the states but not one hit for a BMW case.

With regards to a dirty air filter it makes the engine run a little rich. A rich engine uses more fuel.

Today's Telegraph Motoring section has a letter to HJ about the Kia/Hyundai redress in Canada...

In the USA and Canada manufacturers carry out their own tests following loose DOT rules. In Europe the tests have to be carried out to strict regulations.

There is no way anyone in Europe will be getting a penny back. If they did the car affected would have to be re-assessed for emmisions and RFL and Company car tax bands which would cost owners and possibly de-value the car.

Only complete idiots belive the figure quoted and everyone who reads the blurb will see that they are the Oficial EU figures and are for comparrison and taxation purposes only.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - Bobbin Threadbare
There is no way anyone in Europe will be getting a penny back. If they did the car affected would have to be re-assessed for emmisions and RFL and Company car tax bands which would cost owners and possibly de-value the car.

Only complete idiots belive the figure quoted and everyone who reads the blurb will see that they are the Oficial EU figures and are for comparrison and taxation purposes only.

No indeed. Although in Europe we make much of these figures, treating them with some sort of mystical reverence! The higher they are the better the car must be, surely? Who cares if it's held together with sellotape and rides like a 3 legged camel.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - RT
There is no way anyone in Europe will be getting a penny back. If they did the car affected would have to be re-assessed for emmisions and RFL and Company car tax bands which would cost owners and possibly de-value the car.

Only complete idiots belive the figure quoted and everyone who reads the blurb will see that they are the Oficial EU figures and are for comparrison and taxation purposes only.

The figures quoted by Hyundai-Kia in Europe are those resulting from Official EU tests and they cannot publish any other figures - I'm not aware of UK Hyundai owners expecting compensation, I'm certainly not.

Looking at motoring forums there's a very clear trend that MANY car brands are producing unachievable results in EU testing from the engineering changes being made to reduce fuel consumption.

My Euro 5 2011 Hyundai Santa Fe is giving me 87% overall of the EU Combined test figure which is all I expect from any car given my usage pattern and driving style - it's actually marginally better than my Euro 4 2006 Subaru Outback but a little short of the 92% given by my Euro 3 2000 Vauxhall Astra.

The EU test regime may need to change to give more realistic figures - perhaps it gets less realistic with each version of emission regulations.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - skidpan
My Euro 5 2011 Hyundai Santa Fe is giving me 87% overall of the EU Combined test figure which is all I expect from any car given my usage pattern and driving style - it's actually marginally better than my Euro 4 2006 Subaru Outback but a little short of the 92% given by my Euro 3 2000 Vauxhall Astra.

Our Kia Ceed averages about 85% of the EU combined figure which when compared to the Mondeo TDCI which was 83% and the Focus TDCI which was 79% means I am more than happy.

Our 1 series does slightly shorter trips than the Ceed and only does 76% of the EU combined but I am still happy. Its a 2 litre diesel with 141 bhp and 48 mpg is a good figure IMHO when you consider the Mondeo TDCi 2 litre in similar use only managed 39 mpg.

My experience has indicated in the past that petrol cars are generally better percentage wise, Micra was 87%, Puma was 89% and Cooper S was 91%.

You just have to be realistic with your expectations.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - unthrottled

Same difference, opening the throttle a little more will use more fuel.

No, it isn't. Ignoring WOT or tip-in enrichment, fuel flow is directly coupled to air flow. Reduce airflow and you reduce fuel flow irrespective of throttle position.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - 72 dudes

Same difference, opening the throttle a little more will use more fuel.

No, it isn't. Ignoring WOT or tip-in enrichment, fuel flow is directly coupled to air flow. Reduce airflow and you reduce fuel flow irrespective of throttle position.

Great, I'm off to clog up my air filter to get better MPG.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - Cyd

I'd agree with Madf - a full service. Also:

Check the throttle body and plate are clean. Remove and clean on the bench if necessary.

Check all vacuum hoses for splits or leaks.

Also, over inflate the tyres by about 3psi. This will reduce the rolling resistance enough to save a little fuel without increasing the wear rate too much or affecting performance. When you need new tyres look for low rolling resistance ones - we've just fitted Yokahama Blue Earths to wifes Rover 25 - very impressed (they are new out)

If you've got mud flaps, remove.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - Cyd

35mpg from a small car like the Ka is dreadful though. I can cruise at 75 in my Saab 9-3 Aero and return 34! I only know that 'cos it's got a computer - otherwise I don't follow the consumtion (I bought it for performance, not to watch the fuel guage).

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - Talking Hoarse

Son used to have a 1.3 ohc KA - that I think is related to your (1.6?). It suffered poor fuel consumption for ages and turned out to be engine's temperature sensor - so it was always running in cold start mode. Fuel consumption improved dramatically after that was changed.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - madf

Ford fit cheap sensors and they fail often. Many TDCI engine problems caused by that. Hence Ford's relative poor engine relaibility.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - meandering

I ran an early 1.3 Ka for nearly eight years, averaging 47.8 mpg on mixed motoring.

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - jc2

Pre 2002,the OHV engine was used and was good on consumption.2002 onwards,the South African Rocam was used-more power was needed for the StreetKa,so the 1.6 was put in it and the ohc 1.3 Rocam used in the std. saloon(performance increased).The SportKa was brought out with the 1.6 and many other parts from the StreetKa.The gearing on both StreetKa & SportKa is lower than that of the original and differs on the SportKa if you have A/C.Tyre pressures should be shown on the fuel flap.

Edited by jc2 on 26/01/2013 at 16:54

Ford StreetKA - Fuel Consumption - bumblebrown

Thanks for all the replies. Tyre pressure was at 26 so now 33 and 30. We'll see! The car locked me out at the weekend - only managed to get in by using the key in the passenger door and electric windows have a mind of their own- only work if I slam the door. I have a week left on months warranty- seriously thinking of giving it back!