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oil sump - Rebelgirl66
I took my 2002 ford fiesta in to be serviced today at my local Ford garage, and while changing the oil the sump plug would not go back in. The garage said the threads had gone on the sump and I now need a new sump cost £105 - has anyone heard of this happening to the Ford Fiesta 1.4 d zetec before?

I know sump plugs can give out but the actual sump?

Should I have to cough up on a new sump when they must have damaged it? cross threading the sump perhaps
oil sump - bell boy
theres not much you can do than shell out is there
they have car
they say thread stripped
you have no car
and no proof
price seems cheap by the way
oil sump - Lud
A helicoil can work.
oil sump - moonshine

Its possible that however did the last oil change cross threaded the sump plug when putting it back in. Or, it could have been the from the current change - you will never know for sure.

Many sumps are alloy and can easily be damaged, the sump plug is made of steel and therefore quite strong. It is possible to repair the sump, but by the time its been removed and the repair made its probably going to cost the same as a new sump.

I agree with BB that it seems cheap. Is that just parts, or parts and labour?
oil sump - Rebelgirl66
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just the part with out labour

Edited by Pugugly on 14/11/2009 at 20:39

oil sump - john96
Going off topic slightly, but I paid 143 quid for my mazda 626 sump from the mazda dealer, I fitted it myself. Imagine that the garage will charge you at least one hour labour plus oil and gasket!!! ( if they dont use some hylomar!)
oil sump - Victorbox
You can probably gauge their level of guilt if they charge you labour or not.
oil sump - Lud
Rebelgirl: get the garage to try a helicoil. Plead poverty. Bat your eyelashes.
oil sump - ifithelps
Helicoils are not ideal in this application, because there is so little 'meat' in the sump, which is why they are all too easy to cross-thread in the first place.

The labour involved in messing around with a helicoil could soon add up - the £100 solution the OP has been offered by the garage looks pretty good to me.
oil sump - piston power
What choice have you got there is no oil in it you can't drive it home, but ask for the old parts for inspection. yes do ask for a helicoil but there not cheap either small thread £15.00 sump plug thread is quite large.
oil sump - Ernied
I know it's of no help to rebelgirl, but many years ago I came across a Mini with a tapered wooden plug hammered into the drain hole.
It worked as well - no leaks.
oil sump - Lygonos
Araldite the sump plug back in, and then araldite over it for good measure.

Then just change the oil via a 'Pela' pump or similar, via the dipstick tube.

If you plan on driving the car 'til it dies why bother with a new sump.

If not, why not give the new owners a shock come servicing time!
oil sump - bell boy
I did a superb job on a headlight bracket with an araldite type two pox resin last week,refitted the light and the bracket came of in my hand
Take the sump plug to the same conclusion,you are going round a bend and the sump plug leaks allowing the oil to get under the nearside rear wheel,you brake slightly as the corner tightens up ,the car is thrown off balance,a lampost rears towards you as you hurtle sideways towards it,theres a loud bang------------------------------------
the rest as they say is history


buy the sump OP
;-)
oil sump - Lygonos
The sump plug in situ (if the threads are shot) has all the dynamic force of gravity acting on a 30 gram sump plug.

Give it a dab with a MIG welder if you really must, but have a mate holding a 'phone with '99' predialled, waiting for the fire before hitting the final '9'.
oil sump - Rebelgirl66
The oil sump is steel not ali - also it looks as through a gun was used to un do and possibly do up the plug, too much pressure, probably cross threaded then.
oil sump - Lud
Rebelgirl: As soon as expedient, you need to dump that garage. They are monkeys.
oil sump - dimdip
What happened in the end?
oil sump - L'escargot
As soon as expedient you need to dump that garage. They are monkeys.

Unless Rebelgirl66 knows otherwise, it could have been damaged during a visit to an entirely different garage, or by a previous DIY owner.

Edited by L'escargot on 17/11/2009 at 07:52

oil sump - bell boy
you wouldnt use a gun rebelgirl as there arent enough freds on the fred plus the gunner would get sapped in oil
ford steel sumps are horrible beasts and normally rot out before the plug goes awall
oil sump - Dave_TD
That's nice to know bb, my 97 Escort has a reasonable patina of iron oxide across the whole of the sump. Across the whole of the car, in fact. :-(

Enjoying your postings lately, keep them up!