Just watched the BBC News. Government state that the cost of motoring is down 17%!
I knew it. Duty has decreased and the price of fuel has plummeted. Car prices are down. I take it you have all noticed.
The figure is reached in comparison to the cost of public transport, the cost of which has increased. And something needs doing to rectify this apparently.
So the cost of public transport is going to come down then to solve the problem? Err I doubt it somehow.
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Does anyone actually believe anything that this discredited and thoroughly dishonourable goverment actually says?
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...........too early to go off topic !
Edited by Pugugly on 25/07/2009 at 00:30
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see above - see I was right !
Edited by Pugugly on 25/07/2009 at 00:30
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>Just watched the BBC News. Government state that the cost of motoring is down 17%!
Meanwhile, tractor production is up by 40% and the BBC is good value for money.
The economy isn't circling the drain - it's already in the U-bend.
Who did you think would be the first and easiest target?
Car owners, by definition, are wealthy.
Kevin...
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Have they released the name and address of the motorist concerned ?
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Isnt this just typical.
Tell me one thing guys. The population of the country has not gone up by a large amount, yet car ownership has increased by a huge amount.
Now either it seems that a: people are prepared to give up holidays and eating and shell out much much more for the joys of motoring, or the joys of motoring have become more affordable for the masses.
Hmm haaa not worked it out yet?
Let me tell you then
In relative terms, the overall cost of motoring has been falling since the war, and it contiinues to do so.
You may not like the fact, it may ruin your "we never had it so bad " argument down the pub, but its FACT
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>In relative terms, the overall cost of motoring has been falling since the war, and it contiinues to do so.
>You may not like the fact, it may ruin your "we never had it so bad " argument down the pub, but its FACT
Most everyday consumer items cost less in relative terms than they used to. TVs, white goods, holidays, mobile phones, coffee, bananas, etc, etc. so what makes motoring a special case?
Kevin...
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Most everyday consumer items cost less in relative terms than they used to. TVs white goods holidays mobile phones coffee bananas etc etc. so what makes motoring a special case?
Spot on.
If we're supposed to feel guilty then I don't. Long may it continue to fall.
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The Government have to be very careful not to price drivers off the road, and do even more damage to the economy.
I was in my previous job for about 16 years. The only trouble was that it was about 30 miles from where I live, in a high housing cost area.
When I looked at the figures, I was spending about a quarter of my pay in travel to work costs. This was despite doing everything to reduce the cost, for example by having an economical diesel, running the car to very high mileage, carrying out my own maintenance, full no claims bonus etc.
In the end, I accepted a job with what is one of the suppliers to my previous employer. The job is 'home based' and I have a company car. This means that every work related mile is now paid for. The disadvantage is I now pay company car tax.
So although I earn only a fraction more than I did previously, I now feel a lot richer.
The government will continue to tax anything that moves. It doesn't care whether there are a few casualties along the way. Often, it is those who live in more 'deprived' areas who need cars to get jobs where they are available.
I agree that buses and trains are too expensive. Most other European countries seem to be able to provide far better and cheaper public transport.
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17% compared to when?
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This chart indicates that the cost of fuel was substantially less under the Tory Government from 1986 and began to rise under the present government from 1997, when it took power:
www.speedlimit.org.uk/petrolprices.html
Motorists, smokers and drinkers have generally been a soft target for governments though, whether Labour or Tory. In the case of cigarettes the figures are:
www.the-tma.org.uk/page.aspx?page_id=42
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Fuel is not the only cost of motoring.
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Fuel is not the only cost of motoring.>>
Agreed, but for those whose cars have passed through the early depreciation levels, it's the largest financial outlay over the year.
For most people a car is normally essential - public transport can be expensive, inconvenient as to routes available to intended destinations and time wasting.
I could easily give up my car (I have a Merseytravel bus pass that covers trains, buses and ferries over a huge area), but have to take my disabled wife for a variety of hospital visits over the course of a week.
Three of the hospitals involved are 20 to 30 plus miles away and a car is the only way to get there and back in reasonable time - using public transport or even the ambulance passenger transport service are non-starters
Edited by Stuartli on 25/07/2009 at 15:22
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This really annoys me - In today's Telegraph the 'Real cost of living' is calculated at -9.1%
This is based on food at 9%, household bills at -15% and transport at -15%.
Well, I am paying more for food, the same or more for household bills and more for petrol than 2 years ago, so I estimate 'my' inflation at more-like +20%..........
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if you want to vent more spleen you could go to the bbc website and click on the have your say page
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Personal cost of motoring since last year
1 Diesel down form 135p per litre to 99.9
2 car insurance renewed for 13% less than last year
3 road tax on my 1.9 TDI Octavia reduced
4 Local dealer has reduced the cost of a service by 10%
Despite list price increase in cost of Octavia I could buy a new one for substantially less that I payed in Dec 2007 through DTD
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"1 Diesel down form 135p per litre to 99.9"
A price that existed for about 3 months: prior to that it was... about 99p...
(lies and statistics and those who trot them out:-) )
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lies and statistics >>
madf - What are your charts predicting for the FTSE now? I seem to remember last year you were saying a bottoming out around 2000 or so?
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My gut feeling is that motoring costs are lower. I have just seen that Renault Megane advert for £10995 - bargain, and probaly still worth £6000 after three years. (my figures, might be better?)
Edited by The Melting Snowman on 25/07/2009 at 22:49
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jbif
Rally to c 4900 by September. Then a long drift down.. or sideways...
(We are printing money like mad, subsiding new car sales and look at the effects: worst recession since 1932 and car sales down.. When we stop both - as we will have to do - I can see things getting much worse...remember banks HAVE o reduce vrdit by 70% due to new rules on lending ratios).
But of course, I could be wrong ... and the recession will end in 2010, new car sales will boom etc...and pigs will fly..
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