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Lights in general - concrete
Am i alone in being intensley annoyed at the seeming casual or inadvertant misuse of vehicle lights. Fog and spot lights on for no reason. High intensity rear fog lights on long after any visibility problems, especially around town. Worst of all the number of drivers who sit at lights or simply in traffic with their foot on the brake pedal, dazzling everyone behind. Why? Cars still have handbrakes don't they? There must be some device that can prevent this, some inertia sensor or something. It must be a solveable problem. Concrete.
Lights in general - Dynamic Dave
There must be some device that can prevent this


Yes, your eyes. Rather than stare directly into the offending brake lights, try averting your gaze elsewhere. If the car in front isn't blinding you with its brake lights when slowing down, then I can't see how it is blinding you when it is stationary.
Lights in general - ForumNeedsModerating
If the car in front isn't blinding you with its brake lights when slowing down, then I can't see how it is blinding you when it is stationary.


Well, you're not usually up its chuff when you're slowing down are you?
Lights in general - Kiwi Gary
Depends on the height of the high-intensity tail lights compared to your driving position. My pet hate is drivers who, on unlit roads, leave said lights on when not required. The glare makes it impossible to see past them, particularly those on large SUV's like Landcruisers which are just at my eye-level in my normal-sized car.
Lights in general - Lud
Don't give a damn about anything but full beam coming at me or close behind.
Lights in general - Westpig
i'm with the poster on this one..........i find a brake light left on really annoying in traffic, maybe my eyes are too sensitive

and as for fog lights.........for the amount of times they are of use i think they should be phased out.........at night they are too easily mixed up with brake lights for my liking........I have been known to bung main beam on and light up the back of their heads when someone has them on with no hint of inclement weather.........not exactly the conciliatory approach, i'd agree though
Lights in general - rogue-trooper
Don't give a damn about anything but full beam coming at me or close behind.


With you on this Lud. Especially when oncoming on the other side of a dual/m-way.

However I do sometimes get annoyed by rear fogs when it is wet or when have to follow a car for miles and miles. Front fogs don't bother me as I can understand why some people use them. Some cars have very weak headlights and using the front fogs is sometimes helpful. I don't find them dazzling unless they are badly adjusted.

Brake lights at traffic lights....I hope no one comes behind me then when I drive SWMBO's Grandis. Has scores of very bright LEDs.
Lights in general - pmh
>>high-intensity tail lights compared to your driving position. My pet hate is drivers who, on unlit roads, leave said lights on when not required. The glare makes it impossible to see past them, <<

You better book your appointment for cataract removal now, the waiting lists are still increasing!
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pmh (was peter)


Lights in general - Kiwi Gary
My eye-specialist has given me 20 years before I need anything done. Maybe the Landcruisers et al down here have stronger HIT lights than your area. I don't know what wattage they use, but much more powerful than normal stop-lights. Presumably, Peter, you are not bothered by full-beam headlights coming at you either. I find the effect similar in the amount of vision beyond the vehicle.
Lights in general - Spospe
Dynamic Dave says that if brake lights do not blind when slowing down, he cannot see how they do so when stationary.

I can, its easy.

When slowing down the brakes are applied, but not for long.

When stationary (at traffic lights for example) they are on for much longer and you are much closer, hence the problem.

DD sounds somewhat selfish.
Lights in general - Dynamic Dave
DD sounds somewhat selfish.


Nope. I'm just sensible enough not to look directly at brake lights.

Mind you I do wonder if the people who complain of brake lights being left on are the same people who complain that the sun is bright and melting their eyes when they look directly into it.

Simple solution is to look away.
Lights in general - Spospe
To persue Dynamic Dave's argument to its logical conclusion, why bother to adjust headlights at all? Why not just look away if they are shining in your eyes? Why bother with having any laws at all, just look away?

A little bit of consideration is all I ask.
Lights in general - L'escargot
Am i alone in being intensley annoyed .....


Chill out. You shouldn't let anything annoy you (especially intensely so) when you're driving. It can only be detrimental to your driving.
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L\'escargot.
Lights in general - stevied
An increase in automatics and DSGs and the like means more people just sit at the lights with their foot on the brake.. it's easier to do that because if you put it in N you have to put your foot back on the brake to engage D again.

Have to say it doesn't bother me and I have near-perfect vision (so my doctor tells me).
Lights in general - Muggy
Aren't you supposed to leave an automatic in D but put the handbrake on at traffic lights?

That's what my instructor and test examiner told me.

And it's what I do all the time.
Lights in general - stevied
You may well be right... I'll try it.

Never had an auto before and learnt to drive in a manual Micra (as did everyone of my age and area!) don't remember my instructor telling me that.
Lights in general - Dynamic Dave
Aren't you supposed to leave an automatic in D but put the handbrake on at
traffic lights?


Regardless of whther it's a manual box or auto, you're supposed to put the handbrake on and select neutral on your driving test / learning to drive.

Besides that, if you leave the autobox in D then you're uneccessarily loading it, as well risking moving off should the handbrake fail. Unless of course it's like the gearbox in my Vectra where the gearbox electronically goes into neutral within 2 seconds of the brakelights being on and stationary.
Lights in general - bathtub tom
DD, an automatic Vectra? I thought this forum was for enthusiasts.

I feel another slapped wrist comin on.
Lights in general - Dynamic Dave
OK, I confess.

::stands up::

My name is Dave, and I drive an automatic.

(3rd one in fact)
Lights in general - hxj

Really?

Those that I know well learning to drive express surprise that the handbrake is used for anything other than when parking the car and getting out.