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VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - CarConundrum222

Hi all,

Last year I purchased a 2017 Polo 1.2 TSI, with 27,000 miles on the clock, in great condition. I didn’t buy from VW, but it did come with 4 VW services under its belt.

It’s now due a major service and also apparently a brake fluid service.

My local VW have quoted £433 for this work, a local garage (specialising in VW, Audi and Skoda) has quoted around the £300 mark.

My question is, from a resale value perspective, is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing?

This is the first time I’ve had a ‘nice’ car, so I’m not sure how long I’ll keep it exactly (previous cars have been scrapped or sold due to unreliability after just a few years). I imagine it will be at least 2-5 years though.

Any thoughts on this topic would be much appreciated.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - Xileno

Use the independent specialist, they should be familiar with any quirks with this model. The impact on residuals will be tiny if any by the time you finish with the car.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - Alby Back
Well, it’s already 5 years old, and if you do end up keeping it for another five years, it’ll be ten years old then. As long as you’ve kept it properly serviced and maintained at whatever type of garage it’ll be fine and won’t make a great deal of difference to it’s final value.
VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - thunderbird

Hi all,

Last year I purchased a 2017 Polo 1.2 TSI, with 27,000 miles on the clock, in great condition. I didn’t buy from VW, but it did come with 4 VW services under its belt.

It’s now due a major service and also apparently a brake fluid service.

Someone is not telling you the truth.

A 2017 Polo (doing less than 10,000 miles a year) would be due its 5th service this year but the 5th service is not a major. The 2nd, 4th etc are majors on VAG cars, the 1st, 3rd, 5th etc are basically oil changes.

Our Fabia is a 2018 ( a year younger than yours) and had a minor at 1 year and 3 years and a major at 2 years. Its due a major this year at 4 years.

So I suggest you check with both companies who quoted and find out what work they propose. A 5 year service should not be costing £300 let alone £433.

Here is a link to the VW service page. At 5 years your car is due a minor which is £184 (or less if you haggle possibly). Even if its due a brake fluid change its an additional £69.

But one question, at 5 years old its due an MOT, is that included? Say that because the independents quote of £300 would be about spot on for a minor, brake fluid and MOT

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - CarConundrum222

Hi thunderbird, thanks for your reply.

The car alerted me to the fact I needed an 'oil service and inspection'. I went into VW with my service book and was told I'd need a major service and brake fluid service.

On enquiring how they knew it needed a major v minor (just for my own understanding), the chap pointed out that from the service book, he could see it hadn't had new filters/spark plugs at the last service (or from what I can see, at any), so the previous service had been a minor (and it's due a major every 2 years).

The independent garage noted that they only do one kind of service, and don't believe in differentiating between major and minor... The cost is £250-£300 depending on engine size and £45 for a brake fluid service, so I estimated £300 from that. No MOT included (not due until April).

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - SLO76
“ The independent garage noted that they only do one kind of service, and don't believe in differentiating between major and minor... The cost is £250-£300 depending on engine size and £45 for a brake fluid service, so I estimated £300 from that. No MOT included (not due until April).”


Hmmm, I’d be wanting to know what they’re doing for that money. At my local VAG specialist they offer a minor and a major service both priced substantially less than the main dealer. It’s far far too much to pay if all they’re doing is a check and a quick oil change. Is there another VW specialist nearby? I’m lucky enough to have four in my home town.
VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - SLO76
Use the specialist. They’ll know these cars inside out and it’ll make no difference to the resale value. Main dealers will overcharge and they’ll typically barrage you with advisories which aren’t needed. My last visit to a main dealer (AC Toyota) resulted in the production of a near £2,000 bill full of unnecessary work for what turned out to be a small hole in a badly fitted exhaust which was fixed for nothing and the car then passed an Mot a week later without a single advisory.


If it has 4 services under its belt it should only be due a minor service for which my local VAG specialist charged me £130 for on a VW Polo 1.2 TDi last time. The only way it’ll need a major service would be if the last owner scrimped and did a minor on the last service. If so then carry out the more in-depth service.

You might find they’ll suggest a timing belt change, which is due at 5yrs but with such a low mileage I’d leave it alone.

Edited by SLO76 on 13/01/2022 at 12:03

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - CarConundrum222

Hi SLO76. Thanks for your response!

Seems like the last owner may have scrimped and gone for the minor...

VW did indeed suggest a timing belt change at it's next service, at a cost of £500.

So glad I popped a post on here, as now I know to leave that alone for a while longer.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - Gibbo_Wirral

Another vote for an indy specialist. I can't say what VW is like but in Peugeot circles I've found that their dealer service departments just employ people who do the equivalent of google Peugeot's data servers for information. They have no life experience of the marque.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - daveyjp

Previous owner either traded or handed back the car at three years and the selling dealer had a basic VW service prior to sale.

Or an owner knew they were changing vehicle and did a cheaper minor service at 4 years to get the service record.

At five years go for a full servive at a VW indie and as suggested this may include cambelt, water pump and tensioner.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - Andrew-T

I can't say what VW is like but in Peugeot circles I've found that their dealer service departments just employ people who do the equivalent of google Peugeot's data servers for information.

Although I have owned exclusively Peugeots for over 20 years I can't remember when I last visited a Pug service department. It may have been the occasion when they persuaded me that my 25K-mile 306 needed two new front suspension arms - which I doubted but let them do. After that I only took up their cheap oil-and-filter offers for me to DiY. Everything else I have passed to two local indies, following my own interpretation of the service schedule.

When a car is 5 or 6 years old the resale value of a full dealer service record becomes pretty small, but it probably makes the car more saleable privately.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - Smileyman

Interesting question, I have 65k on the clock on my Toledo, until COVID I used to drive 20k a year, services August & February. Switching to time the next service will be due next month (February) SEAT quote £209 for an intermediate service at any of their franchise dealers. (that's move than stated above for VW!). I purchased a 5 year SEAT warranty with the car from new, this will expire in August so will stick with franchise dealers this time.

5 years' will be August, based on comments here the timing belt will need to be changed, as well as having a MOT, as the car will be coming out of warranty I think it may be time to explore the indies in the area for a quote. The only issue that would be worth considering is if a warranty claim was required soon after, whether there would be any goodwill payment from SEAT with a car that had been fully maintained in franchise garages!

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - John F

Any thoughts on this topic would be much appreciated.

The no-brainer answer is a resounding...NO! Four oil changes in 27,000 miles is already overkill. If my car, I wouldn't do another one until 37,000 miles. If I wanted to change such young brake fluid (our 21yr old Focus might have had it changed when it got new rear brakes around 120,000 miles ), I would merely siphon off the contents of the reservoir and replace it with fresh fluid. Cost - a fiver and a length of thin pipe. Don't get it on the paintwork! Any tiny percentage of suspended water in the pipework will gradually be diluted and dispersed over the next few hundred miles. The annual MoT test will provide all the safety checks and advice you might (or might not) get from a routine service. In five years time it will be ten years old and the number of service stamps in the book will have little or no bearing on its tiny value. If you want it to last as long as our 160,000 mile Focus, the two most important things are oil changes every 10 - 15k miles and (never done at garage 'services') early attention to brake pipe (keep them greased) and underbody corrosion. It's worth it, because when a car gets beyond ten years old you (or a family member) are enjoying virtually depreciation-free motoring.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - SLO76
For the sake of the £3/£4 a week annual servicing will average out at with a good local VW specialist it’s not worth scrimping on especially when part of that additional cost is repaid via higher residual values and increased reliability. I’ve seen many neglected unserviced cars over the years and even at 10yrs plus they’re worth substantially less.
VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - brum

The OP may be interested in the VW All in plan

www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/owners-and-drivers/servici...l

Exclusively available for vehicles between 3 & 6 years old, get 2 years’ Roadside Assistance, 2 years’ Warranty, 2 MOTs and 2 services, all for just £33.45 a month

Please don't listen to John F's advice. I used to have the same mindset as his, but have found out the hard way that lack of regular and recommended servicing does lead to costly issues down the line. For instance not changing the brake fluid as recommended by the manufacturer leads to corrosion inside the calipers and brake pistons leading to braking issues such as brakes dragging, causing premature wear of discs and pads. Significant amounts of oxygenated water gets into the calipers past the piston seals over time and corrosion occurs locally, the water content doesnt show up in the reservoir having been chemically used up by the corrosion

Less of a problem if your car is parked all year round in a nice dry garage and hardly moved like John's collection.

In the present climate and for the foreseeable future, the price of good quality secondhand cars is phenomenally high. A documented service record will add more to its second hand value than the cost of the servicing.

Unless they are old bangers like John's.

Edited by brum on 15/01/2022 at 10:47

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - Big John

We use our great local independent garage for our fleet although I used the main dealer whilst under warranty.

Our son's car is a 2016 1.2tsi Octavia which will be fitted with the same engine as the 2017 1.2tsi Polo. They follow the manufacturers servicing schedule that seems to alternate between major/minor servicing with brake fluid every couple of years, spark plugs every 4 years?(I think) and cambelt every 5 years (or 80k). It's just had it's first cambelt replacement and a minor service which came to about £380 all in - suspect that'd be considerably more at the main dealer.

NB Plugs are quite pricey for the EA211 1.2tsi

Edited by Big John on 15/01/2022 at 11:26

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - brum

£380 for a cambelt change AND a minor service (Oil/filter?) is a great price. VW national price for a cambelt change alone is £669 and for a minor service is £184

www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/owners-and-drivers/servici...l

Contrast VW prices with Skoda or SEAT, exactly the same engines and running gear. Skoda charge £550 iirc for a cambelt change, SEAT is probably somewhere in between. Audi are are probably off the scale even though exactly the same engines.

VAG factory recommendation for EA211 engines is that the cambelt be inspected annually starting at 5 years and only changed if deterioration is found or at 110,000 miles/10 years max. Its quite easy to do, just remove the top plastic timing belt cover and follow the inspection instructions given in the factory service manual (easily found online)

Uk distributors choose to use a 5 year rule for reasons only known to themselves, relying on a history of poor design on older engine designs to justify the recommendation, unique to UK, the rest of Europe follow the factory recommendation.

I have yet to read of a single cambelt failure on EA211 engines and they have been around plenty long enough. Down to a sensibly sized belt using the latest materials, and clever use of non circular sprockets designed to cancel out tension variations as the valve gear is operated. Also the water pump is not directly driven by the cambelt but by a seperate belt off the other end of the camshaft.

One last comment, VAG cars no longer have printed service books, records are held on a VAG database. A good independent can access this database and add his service details using ERWIN iirc, thereby maintaining the record intact. There is a small cost involved so check if the independent is willing to do this

Edited by brum on 15/01/2022 at 12:49

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - John F

Uk distributors choose to use a 5 year rule for reasons only known to themselves, relying on a history of poor design on older engine designs to justify the recommendation, unique to UK, the rest of Europe follow the factory recommendation.

I have yet to read of a single cambelt failure on EA211 engines and they have been around plenty long enough.

The reason is obvious.......to make work for themselves!

You won't read of many failures of Ford's 1.6 Zetec engine either. Its set-up was designed to last the life of the car....as ours has done - so far. And incidentally, it has never had any stuck calipers either, despite its high mileage and outdoors life.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - thunderbird

It was 10 years 100,000 miles on our 1.8 Zetec and I was 100% happy we had it done. Whilst the belt looked fine the tensioning pulley had a huge amount of play in the bearings and I would hate to imagine the carnage if it had failed at motorway speed. The total for the job was about £300 and well worth the money.

Did not keep it long after that but it gave me the confidence to sell it privately and I more than recouped the £300.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - Big John

£380 for a cambelt change AND a minor service (Oil/filter?) is a great price. VW national price for a cambelt change alone is £669 and for a minor service is £184

VAG factory recommendation for EA211 engines is that the cambelt be inspected annually starting at 5 years and only changed if deterioration is found or at 110,000 miles/10 years max.

Agreed re VAG factory recommendations - but this seems to have been since revised. There was some debate before we decided to go ahead.

I've had a cambelt fail in the past on a Capri 2.0 with the pinto engine - fortunately just had to fit a new belt as it wasn't an interference fit.

Octavia 1.2tsi Service was described as "Check all lights, tyres, seatbelts, change oil/filter, carry out underside inspection and road test + Fit cambelt kit. Good price possibly a benefit of being "up north"

Edited by Big John on 15/01/2022 at 20:28

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - CarConundrum222

Thanks for all of your comments. A clear consensus on using an independent garage!

I spent time over the last week gathering quotes from as many local garages as possible, and most of the quotes were remarkably similar - £433 (VW), £432, £410, £442!. Two came in at £300/£275, but I now realise they are impossible to get to/back from (not near any public transport and no curtesy car offered).

I’ve gone for an independent garage that came recommend by someone in the area.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - Xileno

Sounds like the perfect outcome. Always good to use somewhere recommended. I don't think I've ever used a garage that someone I know hasn't used before and been happy with.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - Andrew-T

I don't think I've ever used a garage that someone I know hasn't used before and been happy with.

I had to make a choice a few years ago, when the indy I had used for probably 15 years decided to 'retire' from bread-and-butter work and concentrate on touring-car racing. One of his customers was a paraplegic member of the Haynes clan whose Porsche could sometimes be seen on one of the hoists. The business had always been small - Peter, his wife who 'ran the company' and one, or at most two, mechanics. I put Peter's place (ABG) on HJ's Good Garage List, where it still is (I think) despite my suggestion to remove it.

I found another well-established indy in a smallish village a few miles away. They seem to know what they are doing and are happy to work on 'older' cars. So far, so good. And there is always another one in this town, close enough for me to walk home from in under 10 minutes.

VW Polo 1.2 - Is it worth continuing with main dealer servicing? - barney100

£433 is a lot. Brake fluid changes are cheap. Look carefully at what you get for your money. Oil and filter change then check this, check that. I just get my indie to change the oil and filter and look at all the safety aspects before the mot and put them right, usually a tyre or new pads, main dealer servicing is a rip off.