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Mitsubishi L200 - Brake failure - 2010Jagman

Just had an Interesting time in the works owned L200 pickup,

Does get used on construction site tracks so quite a rough life. bought new by the company and now just over a year old with 12000 miles.

coming up to a security gate down a hill at around 20 mph (site limit) tried to brake and foot goes to the floor. - pump the brakes and there was no resistance - pulled hard on the handbrake which comes straight up with a bang from the rear of the car.

eventually comes to a stop just before the gate. large fluid leak at a rear wheel. - AA contacted who diagnosed a failed wheel cylinder - handbrake cable still attached to drum.

final report from garage states that wheel cylinder found loose, one piston has come out of cylinder and damage to the handbrake mechanism.

Left me a bit shaken as also use the pickup on public roads, amazed at the difference when 50% of the braking was lost and also by how much the pedal dropped. dont think if i had been driving within a normal distance from another car i would have been able to stop in time.

not sure if the experience is useful to anyone but its certainly made me think while driving a bit more about what I would do if they failed again.

Mitsubishi L200 - Brake failure - oldroverboy.

Tell Hj so it can go in his car by car results..

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Mitsubishi L200 - Brake failure - nick62
................. one piston has come out of cylinder and damage to the handbrake mechanism.

..................., amazed at the difference when 50% of the braking was lost and also by how much the pedal dropped.

If a piston has indeed come out of the wheel cylinder, then you've lost 100% of your braking (as there is no hydraulic pressure whatsoever in the system), which is why the pedal hit the floor.

It happened to me one a long time ago and it's not nice!

Mitsubishi L200 - Brake failure - galileo
................. one piston has come out of cylinder and damage to the handbrake mechanism.

..................., amazed at the difference when 50% of the braking was lost and also by how much the pedal dropped.

If a piston has indeed come out of the wheel cylinder, then you've lost 100% of your braking (as there is no hydraulic pressure whatsoever in the system), which is why the pedal hit the floor.

It happened to me one a long time ago and it's not nice!

For many years (at least since 1970) hydraulic brake systems have been split into two circuits, so the brakes on at least two wheels work after seals fail on one wheel.

I had a rear cylinder fail on a MkIII Cortina, the front brakes still worked as normal.

(I did have total failures on a 1950 MG and a 1957 Ford Prefect, not fun in either case)

Mitsubishi L200 - Brake failure - Bolt

very frightning, only time I have known a piston come out the cylinder was when the shoe retaining pin/spring broke through corrosion, I can`t see how it can come out otherwise?

Mitsubishi L200 - Brake failure - gordonbennet

I wonder if the auto adjuster mechanism had seized, possibly due to the soaking in mud and anything else it must get on construction sites.

Would have thought a vehicle in such use would have been under a rough service maintenance schedule not far off the sort of schedule lorries are under, ie 6 weekly inspections or sooner for vehicles on rough service.

For this pick up i don't mean the modern method of peering in the general direction of the brakes and squirting brake cleaner about, i mean pulling out the pads, removing the drums every few months and inspecting things correctly and lubing properly on reassembly.

Mitsubishi L200 - Brake failure - Bolt

I wonder if the auto adjuster mechanism had seized

Possible, but the shoe would have to come off the side of the piston for it to come out, and to correct, just noticed cylinder was loose which answers the question

Edited by bolt on 10/01/2018 at 18:59

Mitsubishi L200 - Brake failure - focussed

Looking up the parts details for that truck the rear wheel slave cylinders are bolted on to the backplate, so difficult to see how the cylinder came loose, unless Loos Han Doo was on the axle line that day in Thailand.

Mitsubishi L200 - Brake failure - Metropolis.

Pretty shocking on a 1 year old truck no matter how hard the use!

Mitsubishi L200 - Brake failure - argybargy

Had brakes fail on a fire engine once. Coming down a steep hill full tilt, rapidly approaching a T junction...applied firm pressure to the brake pedal and nowt. Turned to the officer in charge and just said "no brakes". Didn't really have time to try changing down through gears (automatic) or pulling on the handbrake, but shot out into the main road (which was generally busy but on this occasion turned out to be totally empty of traffic).

Same thing happened to several other drivers in the same machine, all of whom avoided serious consequences through luck or better reactions than me.

It might have been brake "fade" because it happened to a lesser extent on one occasion after a long run to a fire call, when the brakes were red hot and we were approaching red traffic lights. Fortunately on that occasion I had a good line of sight on all entrances to the junction and all other drivers gave way.

But naturally, I digress.