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BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - BMW_Fan

I am considering buying a used 2012 BMW 320i with around 28,000 mileage.

The dealer is offering an 18-month warranty with Safe and Sound mechanical breakdown insurance for £495.

The warranty includes (As claimed by the dealer):

No claims limit which covers ABS, air conditioning, braking system, casings, central locking, circuit boards, clutch, cooling systems, differential and drive line, ECU, engine, fuel systems, gearbox, steering, suspension, turbo and wheel bearings

I am wondering whether or not it is worth paying for the warranty? I'll be waiting for your replies ASAP please to help me make my decision

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - Falkirk Bairn

Does it cover "wear & tear"?

That is the escape from payment in many cases when a claim is made.

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - gordonbennet

The only rock solid warranties are genuine approved used maker's warranties, the rest vary between so so and overpriced bog roll.

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - BMW_Fan

But the genuinely approved used are more expensive than the regular dealers. I believe the extra 2000 pounds are for that piece of mind. What is the car starts to play up on month 13? they'll both be the same then as manufacturer approved cars warranties are only for 12 months

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - BMW_Fan

They've not mentioned it in the email. But BMW's comprehensive insured warranty covers wear and tear. it's a bit higher in price but I'd go for it if it's safer. Any ideas?

www.bmw-warranty.co.uk/Start

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - SLO76
Not a motor I'd buy to start with, they're plagued with issues.

I had an earlier version of this engine in a 318 many years back and it required a new timing chain at 47,000 miles despite a full service history including annual oil changes instead of the biannual business leased cars are likely to have had. This was on top of a long list of faults and early failures that poisoned me against BMW.

Friend had an E91 320D Touring that was never off the dealers ramps over the three years he had it either and brother in law bought a 120D that he had to return and exchange for an Astra GTC 1.7 diesel after a month of hassle. I just wouldn't touch one.

Quick read of HJ most complained about cars should encourage a rethink. www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/new-cars/2016-12/top-10-.../
BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - BMW_Fan

I've checked the link you provided thanks. I guess they're all the 3-series prior to the latest shape of 2012?

So which motor do you recommend for the 3 series. bearing in mind that my most part of driving is in town with maximum 4000-5000 miles per year.

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - SLO76
"I've checked the link you provided thanks. I guess they're all the 3-series prior to the latest shape of 2012?"

Much of the running gear including the 4cyl 2.0 petrol and the 4cyl diesels are largely updated versions of the same and considering the previous E46 suffered from a catalogue of problems too I wouldn't bank on the later models being any better reliability wise.

Don't get me wrong, they look good, drive well and offer excellent fuel economy compared to rivals but the only way I'd buy one would be new and then offloaded before the original warranty was up. As a trader I won't touch them, especially at the end of the price spectrum I trade at.

As for an alternative, that depends of budget and your priorities regards performance, handling, comfort, space and economy?

Edited by SLO76 on 22/12/2016 at 23:05

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - SLO76
Apologies, I was assuming you were talking about the later E90, I forgot the F30 came out in 2012. Note to self.. Read properly before commenting.

The petrol N20 turbocharged engine is completely different but the diesels are updated versions of the older units but with BMW's poor record on turbocharger longevity I'd be cautious of sinking a lot of money into one or trusting it in the long term.

Edited by SLO76 on 22/12/2016 at 23:28

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - BMW_Fan

And what about obtaining BMW's insured warranty? it's a bit higher in price but I'd go for it if it's safer

www.bmw-warranty.co.uk/Start

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - SLO76
As far as the warranty is concerned. Get everything in writing infront of you before agreeing to buy anything. Most warranties carry a claims limit that's wholly inadequate and many include references to wear and tear that could effectively allow them to wriggle out of any claim.

As mentioned above, the only warranties that're worth the paper they're written on are manufacturer backed new or approved used. Do a little digging online to see what kind of record the firm has, I'll bet that it'll make grim reading.
BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - RobJP

SLO doesn't like the BMWs, but here's a different viewpoint.

I've got an F31 325d touring (2013 car), and have had it for the last 3 years (bought as a 6 month old ex-demo).

In the 3 years, 40-odd k of ownership, it's had 2 faults. A single sensor went on the adaptive suspension (fixed under warranty, and I suspect I'd damaged it when I ran over a hare a few days previously), and the EGR valve stuck on it one day on my wife - it threw a fault code, and BMW assist came out to home and the tech changed it there and then - also under warranty.

As said, if you can get a BMW approved used car, then do so. The warranty is as bombproof as is possible. Whilst the cars might be more expensive, if it saves you money on a claim and saves you hours of grief then it's worth it.

Edited by RobJP on 22/12/2016 at 23:40

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - BMW_Fan

And what about obtaining BMW's insured warranty? it's a bit higher in price but I'd go for it if it's safer

www.bmw-warranty.co.uk/Start

I'm not sure whether or not it matches the level of the approved used.

Another point is that the approved used warranty is only for 12 months which I don't think is enough. The car might start to fail on the 13th month.

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - RobJP

Have you priced up the BMW warranty ? If so, then how does it compare to the one being offered by the garage - after all, nothing stopping you saying you don't want the warranty from them, so reduce the price by £500, and you getting the BMW warranty.

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - BMW_Fan

The BMW insured warranty is £630 per year while the one offered by the garage is the Safe and Sound warranty for £495 for 18 months so it's 6 months extra. I've specifically asked about wear and tear and still waiting for their reply.

I am just wondering whether it is worth getting any warranty. The car is not that old and the mileage is relatively low. But you never know whether anything would fail or not within a year, that's the issue.

I know the warranty companies play on the fear side to push their warranties to the customers.

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - SLO76
My last BMW suffered a list of problems including 3 coil packs, 2 wishbones, 3 coil springs, a rear spoiler that liked to detach itself then lunching on its timing chain before it hit 47,000 miles. The bill for repairs to my mates E91 was far more terrifying and it was hardly killed with miles either. There are many cars I'd tell you to save your money and wave the warranty but a BMW won't be one of them.

Having said that and to add a little balance I've another friend with a 2011 E90 318 auto that's been trouble free and another with a 2001 X5 3.0 petrol that he's had for 12 years but he did need a gearbox at 70k which is pretty poor in my eyes.

Edited by SLO76 on 23/12/2016 at 00:43

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - gordonbennet

BMW fan, you arn't going to get the answers you want to hear here.

For such a car it really make sense to go find a BMW approved car, yes it will only be 12 months full warranty but in practice the car you want to buy now will be covered for 6 months under SOGA, so that 18 months warranty in effect starts 6 months down the line..and because you have a useless warranty gives the selling dealer a handy stick to muddy the waters with if something goes wrong.

I doubt anyone here has bought the BMW warranty you linked to, you might find people more likely to have bought it on a make specific forum.

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - BMW_Fan

Totally makes sense. I am not going to get the answers I want here :D

I just wanted to get more reviews from more experienced members having limited experience in buying used cars.

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - SLO76

Totally makes sense. I am not going to get the answers I want here :D

I just wanted to get more reviews from more experienced members having limited experience in buying used cars.

Doing the right thing but at the end of the day if you want one go get one. It's your hard earned and what's the point in buying something dull you don't fancy? I've bought and sold hundreds if not thousands of cars over the years but still despite knowing better I've got a soft spot for Alfa's and old Citroens! But I'd buy at a price I could afford to bin it if it goes catastrophically wrong.
BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - SLO76
It's likely to be of a good standard when the manufacturer themselves put their name to it but be wary if the car hasn't a full dealer history or you don't want to continue one then there may be difficulty in proving the car was maintained according to BMW standards even if you can provide receipts for parts used. Don't be complacent regards claims limit also, a £1,000 won't look at engine replacement. The RAC used to offer a good unlimited warranty we used to use also but not sure if they still do. But the cost of this is likely to be pretty high which will eat into any saving over an approved used BMW with a warranty from a main dealer which is where I'd be looking as they get the best stock.

Edited by SLO76 on 23/12/2016 at 00:22

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - BMW_Fan

The car has got a full service history though.

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - SLO76

The car has got a full service history though.

A full dealer service history?
BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - BMW_Fan

yes full BMW history

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - SLO76

yes full BMW history

I'd go for the manufacturer warranty for all the extra it costs then and I'd maintain that dealer history.
BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - veloceman
Personally I wouldn't bother with a warranty.
You get six months legal protection when you buy a used car from a any dealer.
Also if the car has full manufacterer history they have a 6 year goodwill period where they at least have to make a contribution to repairs (barring wear and tear I guess).

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - gordonbennet

yes full BMW history

I'd go for the manufacturer warranty for all the extra it costs then and I'd maintain that dealer history.

So would i, but only if the cost difference between the two was vastly more than an approved used equivalent, which is what i would seek out for the make.

Remember on a local level this time of year when few cars are selling you might be able to negotiate free servicing for the 12 months warranty period, then see about purchasing another 12 months cover when the approved used cover expires, ypu may find an approved used might not be much more expensive in the long run.

The icing on the cake being so long as you service it correctly, approved used cover is bombproof for peace of mind.

Edited by gordonbennet on 23/12/2016 at 08:04

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - oldroverboy.

A point to think about.

You really want no NEED to be convinced to buy the BMW warranty really, as in my expereience over many years aftermarket warranties are so much expensive toilet paper.

Buy a BMW approved used and get the genuine peace of mind ot take your chances..

Do you feel lucky.

Safe and sound is part of WMS.. run a mile. DO NOT GO NEAR IT!

Edited by oldroverboy. on 23/12/2016 at 08:30

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - pd

If you are the kind of person who wants peace of mind just pay the extra and buy a BMW warranty.

Otherwise, take the gamble, don't bother with any warranty and accept you may have to pay out to fix something at some point.

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - barney100

Dosen't the car have a warranty anyway? Car like that surely has at least 6 months on it...hopefully a year. If not the dealer can't have much faith in his cars.

BMW 3 Series - [URGENT] Used BMW 320i warranty query - gordonbennet

Dosen't the car have a warranty anyway? Car like that surely has at least 6 months on it...hopefully a year. If not the dealer can't have much faith in his cars.

I think thats how some dealers hook in unsuspecting punters, priced at £x999.99p it looks a bargain compared to the £1500 more expensive approved used model down the road, but by the time they've talked said punter into a worthless warranty, overpriced GAP insurance, pointless snake oil polish worth about 1/200th the cost etc etc, its near enough the price of the approved used which included a proper warranty in the advertised price.

Once the turbo or timing chain have self destructed and the bought warranty proved to everyone its worthlessness, said punter gets the run around, loses his car for about a month while they pretend to assess the damage, then declare it wear and tear...by which time said punter wishes with all his heart he'd bought a Prius.:-)