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Fri 7 Feb 2014 17:28
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - oldroverboy.

It's that time coming around again,

I would like in my next car, Comfort 1st 2nd and 3rd qualities, petrol, preferably manual but not against a proper auto, not a "low" driving position, under manufacturers warranty, approx 1 year old, mid range and not too small. french/italian/vag need not apply. no dsg type thingys either.

Comfort is the priority.

engine size not important but no small turbos, no funny sized wheels. mileage not high enough to justify diesel, and day to day usage minimal. (swmbo is within 5 min walking distance of work now)

Edited by oldroverboy. on 07/02/2014 at 17:28

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Fri 7 Feb 2014 17:32
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - jamie745

Jag

Job jobbed.

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Fri 7 Feb 2014 18:03
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - oldroverboy.

Jag

Job jobbed.

Means xf Reliability. running costs

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Fri 7 Feb 2014 18:39
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - Trilogy

Kia C'eed?

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Fri 7 Feb 2014 19:08
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - oldroverboy.

Kia C'eed?

No Thank you!

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Fri 7 Feb 2014 20:07
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - kerbed enthusiasm

Volvo XC60 2wd

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Fri 7 Feb 2014 20:08
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - gordonbennet

Suggest you try an Avensis, 1.8 petrol seems to be the one, lower spec probably has the most sensible tyre/wheel combination.

Autobox, if considered, is a CVT but in a different league to what you might have found before.

The only reason we don't have one is that Toyota, and i shall never know why, saw fit to stuff a blinkin electric parking brake in, and i will not have one of those on a car i choose.

I suppose the new Auris would be coming up as used cars now, indeed maybe grab yourself a hybrid Auris or Prius?

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Fri 7 Feb 2014 20:49
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - Trilogy

Nissan Cashcow.

Nissan Note.

Toyota Auris - last version.

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Fri 7 Feb 2014 21:20
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - SteveLee

By refusing to buy French you've immediately eliminated lots of the best riding cars in their respective classes. Ditto Italian for the Panda 4x4 which is astonishingly supple - although it's probably a bit too small.

The Japanese are notorious for putting low bonnet lines ahead of suspension travel - although the recent pedestrian safely regs have brought some sense to their engineering departments.

Kias seem to generally ride well - but you don't like them.

Ford seem to be the best at getting the chassis dynamics spot on these days.But luxury spec usually means bling, bling wheels which ruins the ride.

The Subaru Forester rides quite nicely but is thirsty. Jags are too low - shame.

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Fri 7 Feb 2014 21:21
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - Trilogy

So much info on this site ORB, suggest you DYOR.

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Sat 8 Feb 2014 11:56
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - corax

The Subaru Forester rides quite nicely but is thirsty. Jags are too low - shame.

The Forester rides well and makes short work of any terrain at higher cruising speeds - low speeds it can get a bit knobbly, also seats are not the last word in comfort. There is no lumbar support to speak of, although that is a personal thing. 27mpg average.

Legacy outback will be better for comfort with it's longer wheelbase.

Honda CRV? Good seats, reliable petrol engines and autoboxes.

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Sat 8 Feb 2014 07:33
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - csgmart

Jag

Job jobbed.

Means xf Reliability. running costs

Having had an XF for over 75,000 miles that developed zero faults I'm not sure why you are questioning Jag's reliability? Modern Jag's are nothing like their cars of 10 or 20 years ago.

Your comment about rnning costs is true though. They are not expensive to run but neither are they cheap.

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Fri 7 Feb 2014 21:54
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - pcvpilotmick

I bought a Kia Venga a couple of months ago, seems to meet your criteria!

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Sat 8 Feb 2014 00:09
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - Avant

ORB, you look like someone who needs a Volvo. Most people think Volvo make the best seats in the business. here should be some nearly-new V40s on the market, or if that's too small there's the S / V 60.

Volvos strike me as too expensive when new, but they don't hold their value as well as the German trio and so wold be a good buy one year old.

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Sat 8 Feb 2014 05:55
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - oldroverboy.

SWMBO likes the S60, so a possibility. The kiaoptima hyundai i40 not bad either. but saw a nice merce350 coupé,last night but damsilly spray on wheels, price was ok, but then went on forums and read the injectors horror stories.

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Sat 8 Feb 2014 12:01
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - corax

Volvo V40 hatchback is said to have some of the best seats around coupled with very good ride, good petrol choice but it might be too low.

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Sat 8 Feb 2014 13:59
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - coopshere
Toyota Avensis post June 2010. Very comfortable, 5 year warranty, sensible wheels and tyres as well as servicing costs. Manual available but do try the CVT it's superb, both give High 30's mpg which isvery good for a petrol car of its size.
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Sat 8 Feb 2014 16:59
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - 72 dudes

As others have said, Auris, Avensis, Accord, i40 might be the way to go.

BUT as Steve Lee says, you are missing out on some excellent French cars, specifically the latest Citroen C5s and C4s. Both have high quality interiors, ride smoothly and are refined at speed while feeling well planted and solid. The poor reputation is largely undeserved.

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Sat 8 Feb 2014 17:22
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - Avant

I'm sure I've read on here that the newer Citroens don't have nearly as smooth a ride as the old ones. No doubt someone can confirm or deny.

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Sat 8 Feb 2014 18:39
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - Trilogy

ORB, won't go French. ORB, have you yourself come up with a shortlist?

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Sun 9 Feb 2014 09:09
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - oldroverboy.

ORB, won't go French. ORB, have you yourself come up with a shortlist?

No french cars much as I like the people..

went to look at the E350 yesterday with SWMBO, who liked it, but couple of unanswered questions were about poor fit of bumper to osf wing which had a tiny little ding 3mm back from the join, (not going to repair that son, car is cheap) (it was) was on private plate and coming up to 5 years old and mo service history for past 16 months. So, politely, no thanks.

If weather permits might go to look at i40 1.6gdi tourer, don't need the tourer bit really, but car is main dealer, 1 year old, petrol, fits a lot of the criteria, (strangely NO optima petrols available anywhere) has the warranty. decided don't like the visibilty on the insignia, next door taxi driver has 2 mondeo estates, works them (and services) mercilessly day and night, so will think..

Avensis fits the bill but cars all described as having a **matic box, have not researched but wull want proper auto or manual. Skoda superb doesn;t look quite right

Going to take my time over this one as is my "retirement" present from me to me.

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Sun 9 Feb 2014 10:04
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - skidpan

If weather permits might go to look at i40 1.6gdi tourer, don't need the tourer bit really, but car is main dealer, 1 year old, petrol, fits a lot of the criteria, (strangely NO optima petrols available anywhere)

Good reason for not being able to find an Optima petrol, Kia do not sell them in the UK.

Having driven a Ceed 1.6 GDi I can see why, not a pleasant experience. The car was very nice but the engine was not a good match even in the smaller lighter Ceed. Very little low down grunt mean't revving it all th time to get decent performance but revving it was not something it liked (and neither did my ears).

Tried an Avensis 1.8 tourer about 3 years ago before we bought our Ceed, looked great on paper and in the flesh but again the engine had no grunt.

Having been a big fan or Turbo diesels since I first drove one back in the early 90's modern petrols have always appeared to be severely lacking in the power you most need, the mid range. Got a 140PS TSi Leon now, its superb. Drives better than any turrbo diesel I have ever owned, no lag whatsoever, is extreemly quiet and has averaged 45 mpg for 8 months (50 mpg if you believe the dash). It is also without doubt the quickest road car I have ever owned, way quicker than any 80'sGTi.

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Sun 9 Feb 2014 11:36
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - barney100

Agree with the Jaguar option. You won't beat that for comfort easily.

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Sun 9 Feb 2014 11:45
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - gordonbennet

Agree with the Jaguar option. You won't beat that for comfort easily.

Deep pockets required, a friends MOT/service/cambelt bill for his XF is £1800.

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Sun 9 Feb 2014 14:00
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - 72 dudes

I'm sure I've read on here that the newer Citroens don't have nearly as smooth a ride as the old ones. No doubt someone can confirm or deny.

DS5 and DS4 ride very hard, but also do not handle nicely.

Normal C5 and C4 fine

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Mon 10 Feb 2014 15:51
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - SteveLee

C3 (excellent), C4 (Good), C5 (excellent) even though it's hard to find a Mk3 C5 with oleopnumatic suspension since they made it an option.

The DS4 and 5 are German hard - at least the DS3 is bareable.

Thw C6 is a stunningly accomplished motorway cruiser - a bit knobbly at low speed.

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Mon 10 Feb 2014 22:42
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - Trilogy

C3 (excellent), C4 (Good), C5 (excellent) even though it's hard to find a Mk3 C5 with oleopnumatic suspension since they made it an option.

The DS4 and 5 are German hard - at least the DS3 is bareable.

Thw C6 is a stunningly accomplished motorway cruiser - a bit knobbly at low speed.

No idea why these have been mentioned for ORB, as he has stated he doesn't want a FRENCH car.

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Mon 10 Feb 2014 23:03
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - alan1302

C3 (excellent), C4 (Good), C5 (excellent) even though it's hard to find a Mk3 C5 with oleopnumatic suspension since they made it an option.

The DS4 and 5 are German hard - at least the DS3 is bareable.

Thw C6 is a stunningly accomplished motorway cruiser - a bit knobbly at low speed.

No idea why these have been mentioned for ORB, as he has stated he doesn't want a FRENCH car.

Because poster was replying to someone else who asked about Citroens ride quality.

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Tue 11 Feb 2014 15:07
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - Ed V

I think those comments were only about the new-ish DS5. The 2008 C5 is old-style comfortable, with either hydropneumatic or steel suspension.

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Mon 10 Feb 2014 21:45
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - Avant

If the cars you mention are typical of the size you're looking at, a Volvo V40 will probably be smaller thn you want. But the S60 / V60 will give you the choice of saloon or wagon.

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Tue 11 Feb 2014 07:19
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - oldroverboy.

Volvo seems to be ticking boxes,

Now to find one.....

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Tue 11 Feb 2014 13:38
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - Ronneh

I'd check out the Volvo V60 D5 Lux more top of the range, but the range is quite vast so I'm sure there's a happy medium out there.

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Sat 15 Feb 2014 13:53
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - oldroverboy.

No petrol volvos (used) available where i am, need to go further afield.

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Mon 17 Feb 2014 12:57
ANY - Suggestions But comfort 1st - Marklew

Merc C or E class - like driving a sofa and the auto box on them is the best ive driven

I replaced my C Class Executive SE with a A5 S Line Special Ed Coupe, but also tried a few E250/350's. Definately go for the 350 if you don't mind the reduced MPG. I tried the Coupes, but the Elegances and other 4 doors won't have the low driving position (but won't look as pretty!).

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