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Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - Adampr

One answer to this question is "slow down", so please assume I know that...

I'm still getting on very well with my Vitara but, for a car that has a reputation for being quite nimble and fun, I have found the cornering grip to be a little lacking and unsettling.

I quite often notice a bit of understeer if I take corners quickly. If the road surface is poor (bumpy), this can translate to a feeling that the front end 'skips" and the steering goes light momentarily before weighing up again.

Today, in the wet, I felt the rear slide a very tiny bit but quickly correct itself.

When I bought the car, I was aware that it didn't have fancy tyres on, but they all had good tread on them and were pretty new. I'm not a ferocious driver, so was not overly concerned. However, I am finding that it is unnerving to try to make good progress when I do get the urge.

I have had another look at the tyres this evening. The fronts are matching Davanti, the rears are one Sumitomo and one Fortune. From the little I can gather, Sumitomo are OKish, Davanti are budget tyres and Fortune are probably total ditch finders.

Does anyone have experience of these brands? Does anyone have experience of driving a Vitara enthusiastically? I'm considering swapping all four for matching all seasons in the autumn, but I'm curious as to whether the issues I've noticed are going to get better then, or it's just how Vitaras are.

In the meantime, I probably need to slow down a bit.

Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - catsdad

No experience of those brands but any car but three different brands of tyres is not going to have the best handling. If the tyre classifications are to be believed they are likely to have three different grip performances too. In some countries such mixing would be illegal but that’s not the case in the U.K.

As you will be aware the Vitara tyre size is relatively expensive. Looking at tyres for my Golf versus our Vitara the latter is up to 50% more expensive for the same brand tyres. This extra expense probably means that Vitaras are generally more likely to be fitted with budget tyres by hard up motorists.

If it was my Vitara, and it was a keeper, as a minimum I’d change the rears asap for something well regarded. If feeling flush I’d do all four but if you feel they grip OK you can probably live with the existing fronts.

Even 4 budget tyres will be about £400 fitted. Premium £500/£600. Ouch.

PS sorry just re-read you intend to go all seasons. In that case of course you’d need to change all four at the same time. Just do them now. As I sit here it’s bucketing down. Good grip can be needed at any time of year.

Edited by catsdad on 06/07/2024 at 06:36

Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - Dave N
In swedish summer tyre tests, michelin cc’s did much worse than quality summer tyres in both dry and wet weather.
Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - paul 1963

Mines on the standard continentals and I like you do occasionally get the urge to press on a bit, cars always felt planted, what's your tyre pressure like? Mines on 36psi around.

Think I'd be tempted to replace all 4 corners with something at least half decent.

Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - badbusdriver

Each to their own and all that, but I would absolutely replace all the tyres for matching set.

Haven't driven a Vitara, but it does have the reputation of being a nimble handling machine which is fun to hustle. So (unless you were pushing way too hard for the conditions!) not much doubt in my mind that any instability is going to be caused by the mismatched tyres of questionable ability/quality, especially with your Vitara being 4wd (I think?).

In the Auto Express 2023 all season are test the Michelin CC was actually rated third, with Goodyearr Vector 4 Seasons (gen-3) coming first and Vredestein Quatrac in second. The CC (along with the Pirelli offering) was the most expensive, but the Vredestein was 2nd cheapest out of the eight brands tested.

When buying tyres I decide what I want, buy them off Ebay and have them fitted locally. Recently bought a tyre for the car this way after trying to repair it myself twice (which, along with convenience, is why I didn't go through Motability). The seller was also offering local fitting which I chose due to it being under £20 (I'd expect there may be a discount to this if buying a set of four). Looking on Ebay for your tyre size (215/60 x 16?), out of the Goodyear, Vredestein and Michelin, 1st 2nd and 3rd cheapest listed were the Goodyear, but that was 2nd gen (rather than 3rd) starting at £122 (from RAC tyres). Cheapest gen 3 was just over £150, slightly more than the cheapest CC, and the Vredestein was £138.

Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - elekie&a/c doctor
Good mid range tyre for these , is the Gt radial .Fe 2

Edited by elekie&a/c doctor on 06/07/2024 at 10:42

Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - Engineer Andy

Adam, when my 2005 Build Mazda3 (good handler) was new, it had Bridgestone ER30 OEM tyres fitted. They were fine for the first couple of years or so (I wasn't doing a lot of mileage and I normally replace by age and condition), but started to deteriorate in terms of noise and wet weather abilities as time went on, despite them having plenty of tread left.

On two occasions within a relatively short space of time, the back end of the car stepped out going round roundabouts in damp (not terrible) conditions and at reasonable (previously safe) speeds.

I then began to look into changing tyres, and found out that this particular tyre (I'd had Bridgestones before on my old Micra [nowhere near as good at handling] and they were excellent, including when older and in the wet) were rated very poor by users on review sites and by fellow Mazda3 owners on owners' club websites.

Once I'd changed to a new set of tyres (2012 - 2018), Dunlop SP Sport FastResponse, the car was back to its former great handling self. When they were changed at ~6 years old, the latest set (Michelin CC+), they too were very good and still are today.

What it shows is that a poor set of tyres can make even good handling cars seem a handful at times, especially in wet weather. Having a set of budget tyres and especially the really cheapo 'ditchfinder' type, combined with them being not matched, probably makes that worse, especially for a higher-sided crossover SUV with a higher centre of gravity.

Note that using a 'premium' make set of tyres (as shown above) doesn't always result in good/safe handling - sometimes even the best of makes gets it wrong, in my view. The first (OEM) set on my old Micra was a Dunlop set and had similar issues to the Mazda OEMs when they aged (admittedly with less tread left, but still easily legal). One good and one bad on each car from each manufacturer of tyre.

Also, some cars just appear to not be suited to certain makes/models of tyre - whatever their 'brand quality' or expense.

I'd suggest you check user reviews for owners of the same version (generally) of your Vitara on TyreReviews.co.uk and perhaps tyres of the type and matching size that yours takes. As your car is a crossover-ish SUV, it may be a toss-up as to whether it would 'prefer' standard car tyres over ones specifically designed for SUVs.

Hopefully the user and test reviews can be of some help - occasionally SUV-specific tests are done / linked to there that may be of assistance.

Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - daveyjp

If you are looking at a mid range all season tyre consider Toyo Celsius. Had them on our Yaris for almost two years, a little more road noise now they are worn, but only on very smooth surfaces, which in the UK is rare!

Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - gordonbennet

The only one of those i've experienced was many years ago on a family BMW 320 compact, pair of Sumitomos on the rear, oversteer would happen far too regularly for comfort, swapping them for a pair of Vredesteins cured that.

The summer set of Falkens on the Forester are getting down, won't buy again, they've gripped well but only came with 7mm new tread and haven't worn as well as hoped, been looking at replacements (fairly expensive 215/55 x 17), Camskill as always are cheapest for online purchase only, Uniroyal Rainsports currently have £25 cashback offer there too for 4.

Those Falkens i got for £53 each some 4 or 5 years ago so cheap enough not to worry about wear rate, £130ish now.

Finding the usual other sites much more expensive, ie BC ETyres etc.

However, my local Formula1 fast fit people have proved very helpful over time, also prepared to fit online bought tyres for a fair price, i looked up their online tyre site and they're currenly knocking spots off everyone else, Uniroyals supplied and fitted by them barely any more expensive than Camskill once fitting is included, plus obvious convenience, also they came in well priced on Goodyear Efficient Grip.

I run winters and the current summer set will see this season out, so will leave the purchase until late winter.

When i do change it will be either of the two tyres mentioned, not just for decent grip but they both come with over 8mm new tread unlike so many new tyres, some now barely over 6mm new...difficult to find new tread depths, Camskill are one of the few that informs, TyreReviews also states new treat depths but seemingly only on tested tyres.

If i was buying all seasons, then my choice would be Vredestein Quatrac for the Foz, family cars have had various Quatracs over the years, all have been good, we have all season ATs on the Landcruiser, Yokohama GO15, they have been superb tyres with solid wet grip but might be a little aggressive for what you want.

Edited by gordonbennet on 07/07/2024 at 09:12

Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - daveyjp

My Forester had OEM Yokohama Geolanders which were brilliant.

I had no hesitation in replacing them like for like and they were only changed at low 40,000s because of the walls cracking.

I reckon I could have nursed them to cover 50,000 miles.

Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - bazza

I have the 1.4 Vitara 2wd which goes very well. I've not noticed anything untoward re: grip or handling on it's current set of Continentals which have done about 17000 miles. In fact they are so good that I'm tempted to splash out on a new set as and when needed. I usually go for Kuhmo or Toyo, hankook etc, never had any cause to complain. But I once put a very cheap set on a Mégane, cheapest possible and regretted that, vibration and poor grip. Suspect that a tyre change will transform your Vitara.

Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - gordonbennet

But I once put a very cheap set on a Mégane, cheapest possible and regretted that, vibration and poor grip. Suspect that a tyre change will transform your Vitara.

I experimented twice over more recent years, mainly to see if my previous prejudices were still valid, one not especially cheap set i bought, one set i inherited, first year they seemed ok, second year the set i bought in particular gave me serveral frights, both swapped asap.

My first real experience of changing how a car behaved via its rubber was back in the 70's, i had a VX Ventora whioch was a Victor FD but with the 3.3 straight 6 engine usually fitted to the Cresta. It came on Michelin ZX's, which were lethal in the wet, treated myself to a set fo the then new Goodyear Unisteel, completely different car, i expected an improvement but the difference was shocking.

Suzuki Vitara - Tyres; Davanti, Sumitomo and Fortune - bazza

Ah yes, Michelin ZX!! Lasted forever, maximum understeer on my mini!