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Ford Focus ST - Used Car dealer purchase - Refund requested - Swildon

My son purchased a Focus ST3 from a dealership at the beginning of June for approx £13k. It was purchased online, paid for, and delivered a week later on the 8th June. His old car was part exchanged and he paid £400 for warranty.

The following day it had an engine service now warning, and subsequently over the course of the week reverted to limp mode. Due to the distance from the original dealer, it was booked into a Ford Main Dealer to investigate at the earliest available date on 23rd June. It required a new sensor (not sure which) and a remap relating to a recall for emissions. Ford stated it should not have been sold with this outstanding ? They also fixed the Traction Control and the Auto Stop/Start (these had been unplugged !). The car was collected on the 30th June. Cost £295 paid by the original dealer.

The day after the fault re-appeared and was booked into the Ford Dealer for the 7th July and subsequently a MAF sensor was replaced at cost of £190, paid for by my son to then claim on warranty. the car was collected on the 9th July.

The fault re-appeared the same day and was booked into Ford for the 13th July. This time Ford did a thorough inspection of the car and found that the Throttle body was an aftermarket part (and is cracked), as was the Air Filter Box. They also identified damage to the vehicle at the front and rear of the vehicle. My son has not yet collected the vehicle so cannot confirm the extent of the damage, but Ford believed it had been in some collision.

The continuing fault has been sufficient for my son to request the car is returned and a full refund which the dealer has accepted but they are unable to collect the car until the month end (staff shortages, Covid etc) and advised that they will not refund money until the car has been inspected.

He has had a courtesy car from the Ford dealer, against current policy, but they felt sorry for him as he needs a car for work. Without the refund he cannot source another car.

The concern now is, that when they eventually get the car back at the original dealer, they may find the damage and blame it on my son, when it has not been caused by him. Until we can view it, we can't determine if its obvious that it occurred some time before, even though it had to.

He has asked them to provide a refund or at least the bulk of it so he can try and source another vehicle, but yet to hear back. He had to pay a week before the car was delivered, but they won't refund until they have the car back, which seems somewhat unfair given all the hassle that he has had to lead on to try and resolve.

Where does he stand in all of this ?

Regards

Edited by Swildon on 14/07/2021 at 17:50

Ford Focus ST - Used Car dealer purchase - Refund requested - joegrundy

Did your son buy the car on HP/PCP? Was a credit card involved in the transaction? It makes a difference.

Ford Focus ST - Used Car dealer purchase - Refund requested - Swildon

Did your son buy the car on HP/PCP? Was a credit card involved in the transaction? It makes a difference.

No, he got a loan from his bank to fund most of it, the remainder he had saved up. Paid by bank transfer from his own account.

Ford Focus ST - Used Car dealer purchase - Refund requested - joegrundy

Ah, OK. I asked because if it was on HP/PCP all his rights would be against the finance company, not the dealer.

The car was obviously not of 'satisfactory quality' (which is the standard under CRA2015) and he made them aware of the fault within 30 days. He has given them an opportunity to repair, which has failed.

I wonder if it's time to take legal advice (do you have legal expenses cover on the car or a household policy which might cover this?) about your son paying to have the car transported to the seller at the seller's expense and possibly obtaining a hire car, again at the seller's expense.

Ford Focus ST - Used Car dealer purchase - Refund requested - joegrundy

PS: Even if there's a delay in getting the car back, there's no reason why they couldn't have it inspected promptly in its current location by DEKRA or a similar inspection company.

Ford Focus ST - Used Car dealer purchase - Refund requested - Swildon

We can certainly check for that, thanks

Ford Focus ST - Used Car dealer purchase - Refund requested - joegrundy

When I rejected a 'Used Approved' Suzuki last year it took many months until it was settled (in my favour) by the Financial Ombudsman (I'd bought it on PCP).

While it was going through I 'invested' £945 in a 2007 Chevrolet Lacetti estate, sorry station wagon' from a local retired mechanic via Gumtree. I had it serviced, and it passed another MOT. The positive experience with that car convinced me that I won't soon be spending £x,000 on another new or newish car.

I've recently passed it on to my DiL, whose car became terminally ill. It's performing fine under adverse circumstances. i replaced it with a 2009 Hyundai i10 (£1450), again from a private seller, with which I am very impressed and should give several years of service at little cost.

I appreciate that your son obviously likes his cars - but for the time being if funds are available it may be worth him buying something cheap so that at least he's mobile.

Ford Focus ST - Used Car dealer purchase - Refund requested - Swildon

Good news, after a strong email, full refund including the money he had to pay for the one repair :-)

Ford Focus ST - Used Car dealer purchase - Refund requested - Xileno

Excellent result, let's hope he has more luck with the next purchase.