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Any - Tyres and iinsurance - HGV ~ P Valentine

I have been doing some research and wanted to know if anyone knows on what grounds the below might invalidate you insurance ??? I have seen this same thing on 2 diff websites now, one of which is a well known tyre fitter.

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Speed Rating

The speed rating of a tyre is represented by a letter of the alphabet at the end of the tyre size code and indicates the maximum speed capability of the tyre. Tyres receive a speed rating based on a series of tests which measure the tyres capability to handle a set speed for a prolonged period of time.

Select your tyre speed rating to find out the maximum speed your tyres can maintain.

Speed Rating e.g. V Q R S T H V W Y

Max Speed

If you are unsure what speed rating you need, be sure to check your vehicle handbook. Choosing a lower speed rating than that recommended by your vehicle manufacturer could potentially invalidate your insurance.

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Any - Tyres and iinsurance - HGV ~ P Valentine

I never do more then 70, and most of the time I am happy in the slow lane doing 68. So if the tyre rating tells me it is good for 99 mph why get a tyre that can do 100 if it costs extra for a speed I will never do.

Any - Tyres and iinsurance - FP

If the car is capable of a certain speed it seems logical to fit tyres that match.

Otherwise, a discussion with an insurance company might go like this:

"I only ever drive at 70 or less, honest."

"How do we know that?"

Edited by FP on 02/10/2020 at 15:56

Any - Tyres and iinsurance - RT

If the car is capable of a certain speed it seems logical to fit tyres that match.

Otherwise, a discussion with an insurance company might go like this:

"I only ever drive at 70 or less, honest."

"How do we know that?"

There is a UK regulatory requirement that tyres fit the design speed of the car - I thought otherwise but was recently corrected - so if your car has a quoted top speed of 131 mph, it MUST be fitted with V-rated tyres or better.

Manufacturers may fit even higher rated tyres but no legal requirement to match that.

The Motor Vehicles (Approval) Regulations 2001, Schedule 3, section 16.7 states:- The speed capability of all tyres fitted shall be not less than the maximum design speed of the vehicle.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/25/schedule/3/made

Edited by RT on 02/10/2020 at 16:37

Any - Tyres and iinsurance - galileo

I never do more then 70, and most of the time I am happy in the slow lane doing 68. So if the tyre rating tells me it is good for 99 mph why get a tyre that can do 100 if it costs extra for a speed I will never do.

I'm surprised that a professional driver since 1988 is not aware of the requirement for tyres to have a speed rating not less than the manufacturer's maximum for the vehicle.

Insurers can use this to refuse a claim so it is false economy to fit lower rated tyres.

Any - Tyres and iinsurance - Bromptonaut

The last line of the advice the OP has cut/pasted is all you need to know; stick to what it says in the handbook and/or on the sticker on the door pillar, fuel flap or wherever the manufacturer puts it.

Both my cars, a 1.6/115PS Berlingo and a 1.2 Fabia have a tyre specification for well in excess of 100mph. I'm quite happy to stick with that even though neither is likely to exceed 90 and that only due to innatention in the 80+ limit on French Autoroute or an escape' manoeuvre caught in lane3+ on a UK m/way.

Any - Tyres and iinsurance - RT

The last line of the advice the OP has cut/pasted is all you need to know; stick to what it says in the handbook and/or on the sticker on the door pillar, fuel flap or wherever the manufacturer puts it.

Both my cars, a 1.6/115PS Berlingo and a 1.2 Fabia have a tyre specification for well in excess of 100mph. I'm quite happy to stick with that even though neither is likely to exceed 90 and that only due to innatention in the 80+ limit on French Autoroute or an escape' manoeuvre caught in lane3+ on a UK m/way.

My car has a top speed of 140 mph - the original tyres were W-rated - I'm comfortable replacing them with V-rated tyres which would be adequate if I ever went to Germany and buried the loud pedal in the carpet on one of their unrestricted autobahns.

Any - Tyres and iinsurance - Middleman

Insurers can use this to refuse a claim...

Not to repudiate their liability under the Road Traffic Act (i.e. damage or injury to a Third Party) they can't. They may pursue the policyholder to repay their outlay but they must meet the claim initially. There are very few grounds on which an insurer can refuse to meet a claim from a Third Party and the condition of the vehicle or its equipment is not one of them.

Any - Tyres and iinsurance - Gerry Sanderson

Middleman ^^^^^^^^ spot on

See Road Traffic Act 1988 SEction 148 (2) (b)

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Any - Tyres and iinsurance - Bromptonaut

Not to repudiate their liability under the Road Traffic Act (i.e. damage or injury to a Third Party) they can't. They may pursue the policyholder to repay their outlay but they must meet the claim initially.

If you've got savings, a pension and a mortgage that's wholly/mostly paid off that would be pretty uncomfortable.

Any - Tyres and iinsurance - Engineer Andy

The last line of the advice the OP has cut/pasted is all you need to know; stick to what it says in the handbook and/or on the sticker on the door pillar, fuel flap or wherever the manufacturer puts it.

Both my cars, a 1.6/115PS Berlingo and a 1.2 Fabia have a tyre specification for well in excess of 100mph. I'm quite happy to stick with that even though neither is likely to exceed 90 and that only due to innatention in the 80+ limit on French Autoroute or an escape' manoeuvre caught in lane3+ on a UK m/way.

My car has a top speed of 140 mph - the original tyres were W-rated - I'm comfortable replacing them with V-rated tyres which would be adequate if I ever went to Germany and buried the loud pedal in the carpet on one of their unrestricted autobahns.

As long as the tyres design speed limit exceed the top design speed of the car, then in this should be fine in the eyes of the law. In practice, whether that design spec only holds true when they are new or when worn and old is another matter.

I'd personally very wary of specifying tyres that have a speed rating of 149mph against a car's top rated speed of 140, especially as some cars will go a bit quicker in middle age when they fully 'loosen up'.

My 15yo Mazda3 is rated to 115/116mph. The OEM tyres were v rated, but the handbook and door plate says Mazda recommend H or V rated tyres for 15in wheels and V rated for 16in ones for my model (TS2) and the TS below it. Not sure about the Sport model, which may have uprated brakes for the 2.0L model but perhaps not the 1.6 petrol.

Odd why they don't recommend H rated tyres for the 16in rims. When I changed down from the 16in V rated OEMs (I needed to change one alloy wheel and thought it was worth changing all four) to 15in, both the alloys and tyres were considerably cheaper (25-35%) and more so in H rated format (about another £5) each.

I went for the H rated (130mph) as that was enough over the top speed of the car, as I wouldn't contemplate doing near its top speed (or driving abroad in it) anyway.

Any - Tyres and iinsurance - RT

I'd personally very wary of specifying tyres that have a speed rating of 149mph against a car's top rated speed of 140, especially as some cars will go a bit quicker in middle age when they fully 'loosen up'.

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I think the 140 mph top speed has enough "contingency" for cruising at the UK limit of 70 mph so I'm comfortable with V-rated tyres, good for 149 mph.