www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/new-cars/2016-12/top-10-.../

says it all about VAG cars..

The original note was excellent and the owners forum confirms this. The latest note is a dog and the Note forum confirms this. Please check for yourself, most Note forums would buy another original note but wouldn't touch the latest shape Note. The latest shape Note is not a patch on the original, no wonder Nissan have now stopped producing it.

Read what I said before.

"We have a 2015 (E12) Note and think its great. Loads of space, very refined for a supermini MPV and pretty economical. So far 100% reliable but I think the front ARB bushes need either replacing or greasing, going in next week.

Don't believe what they say on the Note forum, they are mostly a load of idiots. At least 2 of us have been banned for saying we liked the car and not had any issues. According to the moderator this could upset owners who are not happy and is thus against forum rules.

Read the Honest John report www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tests/nissan/nissan-note.../ does that sound like dog?"

Before we settled on the Note we tried/looked at many cars including the Polo, Fabia, Fabia, Ibiza, Corsa, etc and for our purposes it beat (and still does) all of them. Better kit, better prformance, more space, economy OK and £0 VED. As I said, does that sound like a dog.

Drive one and see for yourself. But I guess you are just believeing what it says on a warped owners forum and not finding out for yourself.

Edited by skidpan on 28/12/2016 at 08:38

The current-shape Note has disappointed some because it's smaller and lower than the old one

To be honest it was 2007 when we last looked (actually the only time we looked) at the original Note and for us it had one serious issue. It was based on the Micra and the seats were in the same location laterally as the original car. In making the car bigger/wider they simply moved the sides out which left a huge gap to cross to get onto the seat, it was impossible for my mother with her mobility issues to get in and out safely. We never even looked in the back or boot. The seats in the current model are a perfect height for the wifes mother. She too has mobility problems and if they were any higher it would make entering/exiting the car difficult.

So the current Note might be smaller but its definitely more flexible if you get a model with the sliding rear seat. And the front seats are in the propper location making getting in/out easy. We had a C-Max for 5 years and the Note can be made to have more passenger space but this compromises boot space of course. But even with the seat all the way back the boot is as big as the Golf/Leon class of car. And as always Nissan do not include the space under the boot floor in the figures, even with a full size spare there is still decent storage space under the floor.

Here's what ours carries on a weekly basis. Rear seat set for 4 adults and a dog. In the boot we get a wheelchair and a full weeks shopping for 2 families with space to spare. There is no way that would fit in the Leon, one of the reasons we are getting the Superb.

You appear to have an issue with Nissan based on one unfortunate troublesome example.

No one to blame but yourself for buying one with the gutless 1.2 engine, I would never consider buying such a low powered car of that size, its a perfect recipe for a slug. Was it not obvious to you that it would not match the more powerful 1.4 in the older car. Or was it the bolt on bits that the N-tec had fitted that gave it a degree of showroom appeal. When we went to view the Note there was an N-Tec in the showroom and the salesman spent ages trying to find the supercharger under the bonnet, he looked embarassed when I told him that the N-tec was only available with the N/A 1.2 and not the DIG-S or diesel.

and it had the sliding rear seats - this is not a new invention for the current shape

I appreciate they are not a new invention, our 2005 Micra had them.

Dont worry, if you opt for the higher powered version of the 1.2 engine, they have a reputation for blowing up.

Not seen this before even on the Note forum where they will do anything to discredit the current Note (and its owners).

who would buy a Nissan?

We will and when one matches our needs it will be without hesiation. We have had a Bluebird, Micra, Dads Micra and now the Note. During the same period Dad had a Primera, Almera and the Micra we later ran.

That adds up to approx 19 years of ownership and probably 150,000 miles.

What parts have been replaced in that time (excluding tyres and service parts of course). Well from memory one exhaust, one rear wheel cylinder, one set rear brake pipes (MOT), one clutch slave cylinder, one door lock (warranty), one rear hatch lock (warranty), one front spring (MOT) and one brake light bulb. Never had to buy a battery.

You have let one bad experience cloud the brands reputation when it appears that you have had at least one good experience with the brand.

His only mention of a Pulsar was one of the 1.2 petrol turbo engines blowing up (same one thats in your perfect Note!)

Gets your facts correct before posting please.

The 1.2 in the Pulsar is the 4 cylinder turbo unit that is also fitted to the Qashqai and newer Jukes. The same engine is used in the Renault Kadjar and I expect other Renaults.

The 1.2 unit used in the Note is a totally different 3 cylinder supercharged 1200 unit that as far as I am aware is unique to the Micra and Note.

So perhaps you good friend needs to go on a course to update his knowledge about the cars he services/repairs. God help owners who take their cars to him.

And for the record I have yet to read about the 1.2 turbo engine blowing up. I visited the Qashqai forum when were looking and saw no mention.

My last post on this thread since its gone way of the OP's orignal subject

but

why don't you admit that the info you posted was incorrect rather than suggesting I search for info on a non existant issue. Yes, I will admit I read about some of the 1.2 DIG-T engines using more oil than they should in some early Qashqais but all that appears to have died down now and it certainly never affected the totally different engine in the Note.