All - Is it just me ... - RobJP

This bit in 'Ask HJ'

www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/answer/68147/dealer-has...s

Basically, the person bought a new Audi S3 in December 2015. He has just checked the tyre pressures for the first time (and found them to be overpressured) and is whining about it.

My attitude : Yes, the dealer screwed up. But the owner has been grossly negligent in not checking tyre pressures for 6 months, and should bear a large part of the responsibility.

All - Is it just me ... - HandCart

Doubtless, many a modern motorist won't check the pressures if the tyre pressure monitoring system doesn't inform them of anything being amiss.

All - Is it just me ... - craig-pd130

I agree, to my mind it's ridiculous that the owner has never checked the tyre pressures in 6 months ... I suppose the S3 will have TPMS on board but you'd think it would flag up overpressurisation as well as under?

Mind you, PDIs do seem to be lacking these days. When I collected my Mondeo IV in 2008, the dealer had not actually fitted the front retaining bolts to the passenger seat runners, so the seat wasn't properly (or safely) fixed into the car, as I found out when my son jumped in the car to have a drive with me. I got a free first service out of that.

All - Is it just me ... - RichT54

Two cars I purchased new had the wrong registration on the number plates.

All - Is it just me ... - Bromptonaut

HJ seems to be stating that pressures should be with warm tyres. That's completely contrary to everything I've ever been taught.

All - Is it just me ... - concrete

I must admit that I agree with Rob and Craig. I check the vitals on a regular basis. Oil, Water, Brake fluid and tyre pressures. Old habits. My first company car was regularly inspected. We had our own transport fleet and our own vehicle inspectors(this is early 1970's). You would get a telephone call one evening requesting that you and your vehicle meet the roving engineer for an inspection. Woe betide you if the vehicle wasn't up to snuff. It was even in our employment terms that we checked the vitals on our company vehicles at least weekly. It paid off for me on one occasion. I met the vehicle inspector one such morning. I explained that the car (Escort 1100 petrol) had only been serviced two days previously. After the inspection he looked worried. He asked where it was serviced and telephoned them. Within the hour they arrived with a tow truck and took my newish car away. He said I was a very lucky man and had probably avoided a serious accident by his intervention. Something to do with the brakes was all I could get from him. However, he took me over to the offending garage and we went into the managers office and the owner was present. The inspector then proceeded to give the biggest reaming out I have ever witnessed. He demanded a replacement car for me and immediate action to rectify my car and the possibilty that they could be prosecuted. I got the managers Ford Granada for nearly 10 days. Whoopee. Needless to say I put it to some use. Especially in the courting stakes. I was told that I may have found the problem at my weekly check, but until then the car was a potential death trap. I was always treated like a lord thereafter at service times. I now also check the vitals on collection from service before leaving the garage.

Cheers Concrete

All - Is it just me ... - RickyBoy

...I'm absolutely staggered!

Any owner who doesn't check their tyre pressures (AT ALL) for 6-months is a **** or daft/a fool/an Audi driver (insert whichever you feel is most appropriate)...

...and before anyone get's stuck in – I'm an Audi driver...

All - Is it just me ... - Engineer Andy

Unfortunately its a symptom of modern society - fewer and fewer people are cautious and pre-empt problems by checking things - they wait until the proverbial **** hits the fan and it breaks until they do something about it. Forgetting the obvious safety impact if this applying to cars specifically (bald/cracking/pierced tyres, shot brakes, etc etc), but either putting off doing something about it until it becomes a major issue will inevitably hurt you far more financially.

You have to ask how the owner of that car didn't notice their steering being as light as a feather either - I (and am sure many BRers) can tell the difference between just 3-5 (possibly less) psi in tyre pressures, but 12-15!! C'mon mate!

I too was (for once) mystified by HJ's response when he implied that recommended tyre pressures are those when the tyres are warm (in use), as I too was always told to adjust/take tyre pressures when my car's tyres were the same temperature as ambient, preferably out of direct sunlight in cooler conditions. It would be interesting to see if any manufacturers' (handbooks or directly) states at all under what conditions tyre pressures/inflating tyres should be undertaken in and what the norms relate to.

All - Is it just me ... - Wukl

It's hard to believe someone would not check their tyres for so long. What chance they checked their oil or filled the washer bottle?

The impression I get is this is inceasingly the way with the next genneration of drivers. Dipsticks disappearing, TPMS, canbus lights; if there's no 'icon' on the dash, there is no problem. It's us old fuddy-duddies that drove s***boxes as youngsters and had dads and uncles who tinkered with their cars continually that still check things routinely. Paranoid, us? Probably!

All - Is it just me ... - RT

Dipsticks disappearing is a PITA for those of us disciplined enough to check the oil weekly - we can't check that the sensor is working properly - and the brake fluid reservoir is impossible to check because it's buried below engine covers and ancilliaries.

Gone are the days when you could get into an Escort's engine compartment!

All - Is it just me ... - gordonbennet

Simple answer, no dipstick don't buy...the same goes for all the other things they either try to foist upon you that you never asked for or deny you the things you wanted, just don't buy their product and tell them why you're paying however much money you are to the maker who does give you what you want.

So long as people keep buying they'll carry on adding and deleting to suit themselves.

As for not checking tyres, am i surprised?, not a bit.

I suspect some who've had wheels stolen have only noticed when the car made odd scraping noises when they tried to drive away.

Edited by gordonbennet on 24/05/2016 at 22:00

All - Is it just me ... - nick62

They should all be made to ride a quick(ish) sports bike on a trackday, (Oulton Park or Donington Park is a good choice).

They would soon get to know how much difference +/- 1 PSI makes to the handling of a vehicle.

All - Is it just me ... - focussed

I took delivery of a car from a UK Honda dealer last year.

On the late night 300 km drive from the ferry to home in France I felt that the car was a bit jittery on the steering. Checked the tyres next day - all at 40 psi or thereabouts. They should be 33 - 34 psi.

Again in France - had our previous Honda serviced at the nearest dealer,the ride home was rock hard- tyres at 40 psi.

I reckon they get the valeters to do the tyres.

All - Is it just me ... - Bolt

I took delivery of a car from a UK Honda dealer last year.

On the late night 300 km drive from the ferry to home in France I felt that the car was a bit jittery on the steering. Checked the tyres next day - all at 40 psi or thereabouts. They should be 33 - 34 psi.

Again in France - had our previous Honda serviced at the nearest dealer,the ride home was rock hard- tyres at 40 psi.

I reckon they get the valeters to do the tyres.

Fitters should do it really as its part of PDI, as mentioned about the oil level check, they now rely on sensors due to people not checking the level and are meant to be very accurate.

If my old 8th gen Civic is anything to go by they are very accurate as the light come on at half pint below full level,only happened once though mid week

All - Is it just me ... - RobJP

Thankfully, although my 325d has an 'electronic dipstick', it also has a 'normal' one at the back of the engine bay too. Using the electronic one is a pain in the backside anyway.

For the electronic dipstick to measure, the engine must be up to temperature, the car must be on a VERY level surface, and it then takes about a minute to do the check. Alternatively I can just walk outside, pop the bonnet, and do it by hand in a matter of seconds !

All - Is it just me ... - Wackyracer

Maybe the cars owner was one of the "I get my car serviced every year" types?

All - Is it just me ... - Snakey

It was an Audi driver, why are we so suprised? ;-)