Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - Mcglol

After a cheap diesel to get me from work and back (short motorway miles) and after saving up £1500 I've decided on either: Vectra 2.0DTI, 1.9 CDTi, 2.2DTi or Mondeo 2.0TD, 2.0TDCi. May be willing to push my budget to £1700 for a golf.

I've been reading about all the DMF problems and it's sort of put me off

Any advice guys?

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - jamie745

You'd probably be better off with a petrol especially on your budget. Cheap used diesels are always a big gamble and unless you're doing high mileage (15k ish) it'd make sense to buy a petrol. In terms of Vectra/Mondeo for that price you can get a newer petrol model, probably with lower mileage in better condition and they'll still do 35-40mpg.

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - Avant

Jamie's right about petrol rather than diesel. At that price condition is more important than make or model: decide on the size of car you want (a Golf is a size lower than a Vectra or Mondeo, and equivalent to an Astra or Focus) and then see what'a available.

Include the Japanese in your search: nothing soliders on and on quite like an old Toyota, and petrol Mazda 6s have a good reputation too.

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - Mcglol

Won't petrols kill me around town? like 1.8 / 2.0 petrols?

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - unthrottled

Yes, the consumption of larger petrols is much worse than diesel. But they are less likely to need big bills. If you can afford to take the risk of a hp pump or turbo failing, go diesel.

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - Mcglol

can you give me a rough guide price for those?

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - jamie745

can you give me a rough guide price for those?

Enough to easily wipe out the saving you'd make buying diesel rather than petrol and on diesels of that price they're highly likely to go wrong.

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - Collos25

Swings and roundabouts both Jamie and Avant have pointed out the advantages of buying a petrol I used a 1.8petrol Mondeo estate circa 54 plate and it did over 90k with an average of 36mpg and this was mostly urban driving.Old vectra diesels are a nightmare to own the petrols will run for ever you pays your money and takes the chance if I was in your shoes I would be looking for the newest lowest mileage small petrol I could find.

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - Bobbin Threadbare

petrol Mazda 6s have a good reputation too.

I get, depending on what sort of driving I'm doing, between 35 and 41mpg from mine. I don't particularly drive for economy. I'm sure that someone who likes to plod a bit more on the motorway could increase that quite a lot. It's not bad for a 7 year old car. Husband gets 34mpg out of a Toyota Celica which is good, since it's quoted 28!

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - Mcglol

Found a Golf 1.9 SDI close to my budget, would I be correct in thinking that doesn't have a turbo? therefore only leaving me with DMF and injector problems to deal with should they come my way.

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - jamie745
Well perhaps but I'm not sure why you're so determined to have a diesel. For your budget you can get hold of a reasonably low mileage economical petrol car which is less likely to go wrong.
Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - gordonbennet

This thread proves yet again how things have changed and not for the better, if this question had been asked 10 years ago without fail the OP would have been pointed to a choice of simple bomb proof old Diesels, divine in their rugged simplicity and given reasonable care and servicing likely to carry on economically till they rattled themselves out through the rusty shell.

Thinking Pug 405 (starship mileages), Mondeo 1.8, VW group 1.6 then 1.9 and even Renault 21 here.

These cars were easy to fix too, a reasonably competent DIYer could repair nearly every fault with normal tools, engines dismantled in no time, injectors fully reconditioned for a tenner apiece if you knew where to go.

It took me all my time to find and replace the oil air and fuel filters on the C2 VTS with the 1.6 Diesel lump shoe horned in with umpteen pieces of brittle plastic air ducting clipped in place, i wouldn't know where to start now to put something serious right, looks like the engine would have to come out from underneath.

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - mrnikko

The Golf Sdi is indeed non turbo, with lack of performance to match I had one of these years ago you planned well ahead to overtake on normal roads motorway and dual carrigways o.k. On the plus side its an old school diesel engine the company I worked for at the time ran three year lease on the cars often covering 120,000 miles plus with no problems. As with all other posts look at condition and proof of regular service on this car

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - Massao

Regardless of the reputation and popularity of a Golf, it will never feel better than a Mondeo, or a Vectra. If you are comparing late 90’s Golf to Vectra/Mondeo, then try to sit in each. You will hate the interior of a late 90’s Golf (as well as Passat).

I have experienced Vectra 2.0 DTI 16V and it is a good relaible engine capable of doing 500,000km (310,000miles) provided you use fully synthetic 5w-40 every 10,000. Infact, the engine might be the last thing to die on the car. You may have to replace one or two EGR on the way, some hoses/pipes, and that’s probably it. The turbos on Vectra do not usually die as on Audi or Volkswagen (both are not the cars for people who value reliability more than status). The consumption of an average 2.0 DTI engine would be ca48 on highway, and ca36 in city.

Some people here have commented on getting a newer petrol and not an old diesel. Let me try to argue against it (regardless of the diesel you buy).

1. If you drive through stuck/slow traffics occasionally, or like to sit in your car in a parking lot, on a phone, or listening to music, then a petrol car will overheat, and will use a lot of fuel. A diesel, however would run on fumes, and will never over heat.

2. The deterioration of a petrol engine is noticable in only 30,000. So even you get a newer petrol car which has gone ca90,000miles, the fuel consumption will increase noticibly only after 30,000-60,000miles.

3. The value of a Petrol car goes down very fast with milage, but not for Diesel car!

Used diesel Mondeo or Vectra? - Avant

We haven't heard from the OP for over a year, so (s)he probably won't see this.

I would have agreed with you, Massao, much more in the 1980s and 1990s than I do now. Petrol engines (and their cooling systems) have improved greatly whereas diesels have got more complex with more components liable to fail expensively. This may in time cause diesels to lose value faster.