IF the handbook says change oil at 6k miles if you do lots of stop.start driving...and you don't... tough.

I do almost all short runs and change at 5k miles. And if you read HJ...

Ok - you guys do your oil changes every 5,000 miles or so.

What about the people who have not been told when the car was sold to them they they are required to do oil changes at short intervals?

Can you please clarify something for me....Why do you have to change the oil so frequent? You ask the 'Average' person, all they will know is according to the manufacturers specifications a service is required every x miles or x years which ever comes first.....that's made out so clear for the owner.

The example that i had attached, thats at the back of the book! never is it made clear to the owners...I know you may come back and say, well its the owners responsibility to look for this?? So then if it's so important to the manufacturer for customers to have oil changes if they do stop/start driving or any of the above, why not make it clear?

I totally disagree with such short oil & filter change intervals....are these cars now days not meant to be becoming more 'Green'? changing oil more frequently contradicts the whole idea.

Can you help me understand this.....my car had an engine run-away, so i won't go into great detail but Mazda put the blame on me...they blame this on short journeys, stop/start if we must say - the engine run-away was caused by diesel diluting the engine oil, whereas these so called 'Stop/Start' journeys led to the DPF system not regenerating / being able to reach the optimum temperature.......Why would i never have a DPF light appear? This must mean its been functioning correctly??

If the 1st post is all Mazda have got going for them to cover the engine run-away then they are in trouble for when this goes to court & hits media.

"Some of us read the manual the maker gives us - under the belief that they may contain important information."

Thats fine but at what point does long periods of idling and short jouneys fall into this 6000 oil change period ! and why did the oil contamination light not appear !

I still belive that yours has an underlying fault, or an electronic miscalculation due to a sensor fault causing sudden and excessive flooding of the sump.

Totally agree with the above post,i have a diesel accord done 33k plenty of short runs guess what still works,Mazda clearly have an issue with this diesel unit and are trying to sweep under the carpet get it on watchdog they are taking the....

I agree, it is unreasonable, how do they define a short journey, at what point does the 6,250 mile oil change kick in, if you do some long and some short journeys do they specify a 9,125 mile oil change - ridiculous.

Can anyone find an answer to what Mazda state as being "Regular Short Journeys" please?

Thats extremely true geoff! thank you for pointing that out. It is something i will put forward in court.

You see, if Mazda covered them self whereas they would ask the customer to sign and agree that if you purchase this car then be aware of this and be aware of that... Would they do that? I doubt it on every level, they would lose customers.

In that respect, it's completely un-fair on the customer...Sooooo many stories of not just Mazda owners having to fork out a lot of money on DPF issues and things that are not made clear on the point of sale.

I would have never purchased this car if i knew those points applied above, i would have gone straight for a petrol.