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Sat 12 Jun 2010 16:22
Any - What constitutes a "dropped footway" - guygamps

Mrs G got a parking ticket yesterday apparently for the offence "parked adjacent to a dropped footway"

In fact she parked straddling a "raised roadway"... not a "dropped footway" hey built recently I guess what you could call "speed ramps", they are the full width of road but the kind of width that in some cases sees them painted as zebra crossings, more like a ramp than a bump but in this case not painted with any markings at all.

Anyway, no yellow lines, single or double, a sign along the stretch of road that indicates parking is allowed between 10am and 2pm, and as said, although the road is raised to level with pavement where she parked, the pavement is not lowered, and is NOT marked in anyway as a crossing, except (hindsight is great), the pavement at that point has "bobbles" which I think are sometimes used to help the blind find a crossing?

I have seen many types of traffic calming measures, including this kind of ramp/raised roadway, but with no parking regulations indicated at side to inform of any difference betwen here and where the road drops down, whats is the forums perspective

Thanks

GUY

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Sat 12 Jun 2010 18:31
Any - What constitutes a "dropped footway" - guygamps
More info:

Please have a look at these pics I just took.

picasaweb.google.co.uk/guygampell/Crossing?feat=directlink

These are the two "speed tables" outside the school, please read the captions clearly, and remember they were built at same time as part of same traffic calming scheme

Site A:

Road is not Narrowed
Pavement is NOT dropped
Single Yellow on one side, Double Yellow on other,
Single Yellow has parking permissable as indicated by yellow sign 10 paces away

Site B:

100 yds away
Road is narrowed
Pavement is dropped
Double Yellow is painted on both sides

Clearly Site B is a crossing, clearly y ou canot park there, this is re-enforced in numerous ways, double yellow being the most obvious, but even without the double yellow, the road narrowing and pavement dropping is clear

Site A, to be fair to Mrs G is NOT so clear cut. One side is Double Yelllow one side is Single Yellow, informing driver that the two sides have different status. The road is NOT narrowed, and the pavement is NOT dropped, meaning it is not as clearly marked as a crossing. Plus the single yellow is signed as having parking permitted when she was there.

Apologies for earlier info that no yellow lines were there, but in the context they actually work in mrs Gs favour I believe indicating that where she parked has different status to other side, and both sides of Site B

Guy
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Sat 12 Jun 2010 20:59
Any - What constitutes a "dropped footway" - Avant

I presume that Mrs G parked on the single yellow line astride the hump (Site A).

I expect that the local authority are trying to enforce a 'no parking near a school' rule - but they have to be correct within the letter of the law, and she has nothing to lose if she challenges them to quote the specific law or bye-law that has been broken. If they can provide this, then she is best advised to pay up.

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Sat 12 Jun 2010 21:18
Any - What constitutes a "dropped footway" - bathtub tom

Perhaps you could ask the authority for a photo showing the infringement, that may concentrate their minds?

Seems like an over-enthusiastic operative.

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Wed 16 Jun 2010 03:29
Any - What constitutes a "dropped footway" - guygamps

Thanks

Certainly they can't be going with the "not parking near a school", since there is a sign 10-15 paces away on the same sinlge yellow line strip indicating that parking is allowed between 10am and 2.30 pm and it iwas in those hours that Mrs G parked.

The offence I think in their eyes is that she parked "on a crossing". But she argues that she did not realise a wide speed bump constituted a crossing. I argue that is if fairly clear due to the post, and "bobbled light pavement".

Having said that, the ticket says "parking on a dropped footway", and at this point the footway isn't dropped, unlike the similar "crossing" 100 yds away.

Guy

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Wed 16 Jun 2010 16:48
Any - What constitutes a "dropped footway" - Max Headroom

Having said that, the ticket says "parking on a dropped footway", and at this point the footway isn't dropped, unlike the similar "crossing" 100 yds away.

Look carefully at your photos again. The kerb IS dropped on the side of the crossing with the single yellow line.

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