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Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Roly93

Just took delivery of a nearly new 1.6 Focus with 11,890 miles. Ford direct had put 2 new tyres on the front as part of the Ford Direct 'make it like new' policy. Initially I took the car back as the front wheels clearly had significant un-balance. The guys at the dealer balanced the wheels and they were much better but still not acceptable.

At 65 mph the shimmy is worse, especially on smoother road surfaces.

I noticed on the one wheeel that 3 x 30G of weight had been used to balance the wheel. Can this be right for the wheel to need over 3 ozs to balance it out in one spot ?

Is it possible that if they re-balance the wheels and I still have a problem that one of the tyres is deformed ?

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Tommk4

I'm no expert but that sounds a bit iffy doesn't it....Surely if that much weight is needed it would suggest a more serious problem with the wheel or tyre??

Edited by Tommk4 on 02/06/2010 at 23:30

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Civic8

when you drive at low speed does the car wobble side to side,usually if the tyre is deformed it throws the car sideways very slightly,or it could be a bad wheel,you could suggest swopping rears to front and see what happens

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Singlish

Make sure you get the problem completely fixed, I understand your point about the 90G of weights, go back to the dealer and speak to the service manager.

I believe with Ford Direct you can 'reject' or at least have the car replaced with another car within one month of purchase, at no cost to you.

Andrew

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Peter D

90 grams is in excess of the recommended max weight. This could be a defective tyre or damaged rim. Regards Peter

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - terrierman

I've had similar problems with my daughters Fiesta. Assuming your Focus has alloys, you may have one or more buckled wheels. The condition of many roads and speed bumps are a factor, plus allegedly poor quality Ford alloys - an opinion from a Ford dealers parts department doing a roaring trade in new wheels

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - thirts

I had/have a similar issue.

I replaced the tyres on my Focus (it was running perfect at the time, so no balance issues) . The tyres were replaced with the same brand and I've never got them to run true since. Always a slight wobble at just below 70.

I've had the car back and the wheels rebalanced many times, even had to replace one of the new tyres as it got an unrepairable puncture. But it still doesn't run true. Up to 65, perfect, but then a slight wobble sets in.

Every time I took it back they were getting different balance reading, I forget how much they put on but it was a fair amount. Even tried a diferent garage but still not perfect!

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - MikeTorque

Sometimes the wheel calibration equipment used by a garage can be out, if so then you'll never get a wheel properly balanced at that particular garage. It's worth while getting the offending wheel(s) checked by another garage and see if that corrects the problem.

Also a tight track rod end (TTRE) can cause vibration to transmit through the steering wheel at certain speeds so it's worth getting them checked out as well. TTREs on the Focus II occur with some frequency, replacement is the onny cure.

The Focus is sensitive to certain types of road surface which can generate steering vibration as certain speeds depending on the road surface type and the frequency of undulations.

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Roly93

Thanks for all of your replies I am taking it up with the service dept first thing Monday.

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Simon

You didn't drive the wheel over that rock did you???

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Roly93

Well read, but no...

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Lee1

Best to let the dealership have the hassle or reject the whole car perhaps.

If you tackle it yourself, having had experience of the same problem on my Almera, never really got to the bottom of what it was and never got rid of it completely. Some suggested poor tyres although I tried new ones and a brand name, some said the rims were damaged. Swapping the wheels about including diagonally and rechecking balance may help, the diagonal swap and 10th rebalance helped mine.

You need a good quality balance done anyway. The best machine is probably the Hunter Road Force which balances using a special technique. Call the distributor 01327 323007 stating 'balancer' (not aligner!), to find out your nearest centre with one. Elite Direct in Rainham, Essex, is one place with a Road Force. Another place that has a fine balancing machine, a Hoffmann wheel balancer, is Supertyres in Maldon, Essex. But go for a Road Force if you can. Of course, it may come down to the tyres or more likely the rims being poor and not really balancable to get a smooth ride out of them. If I were now looking to iron out the last bit of vibration on mine I'd replace one front wheel with the old tyre, balance, test 5 miles at 65mph, no impovement then swap with the other front wheel. Sometimes both front wheels have had it, especially on an older car than yours, in which case the swap will be pointless and 2 new front wheels would be needed to do an adequate test. Probably more rarely, of course the mechanical parts of the steering can be worn or damaged if it's not the wheel balancing. On some Audis the problem was found to be a defective control arm, and not wheel balancing at all.

Edited by Lee1 on 06/06/2010 at 09:57

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Roly93

The latest is that the ford dealer have re-balanced the wheels and one now has 95 YES 95 grammes of weight in one place.

They have put the new tyres on the back with the original Michelins on the front which has of course made the steering perfect again.

I would like to ask them if they sweep the kitchen floor under the rug as well as this !

The Ford dealer has washed their hands and told me top contact Ford direct, Ford direct have told me to talk to the dealer so the war goes on !

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Roly93

Resolution at last !

Ford dealer has acknowledged that the tyres are no good after checking the balance and trueness of the rims ONLY.

So they gave me a pair of almost new Michelins off another Focus they had in stock which I am very happy about. Car now perfect as it should be.

My only parting comment is why do these people make life so difficult for themselves and the customer, as a bit of common sense would save loads of time and aggro !

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Lee1

I see, that's a very interesting follow-up. Thank you for posting it.

I and others need to take note: the tyre itself even if relatively new can be the source of the trouble that rim balance after rim balance fails to rectify. I suspect some brands, not merely just some budget unknown tyres, are far from automatically perfect. Let's not forget there's has been and is a recession and quality control may not be quite as good as it could be in the manufacturing process as they seek to drive down costs or simply just stay afloat.

btw were the tyres Ford put on as part of their Make It Like New-ish promise a brand name or unknown/budget tyre?

Edited by Lee1 on 13/06/2010 at 14:26

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Roly93

Sorry I thought I'd mentioned, they where an unknown Chinese brand called 'Fullway'. The likes of which I hope I never see again.

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Lee1

Roly, thank you.

Have a look at this post on another forum alleging trouble with that brand http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109013

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - barkas

Now i know I write this with hindsight, but I would have been suspicious of this car from the start, ...you say a (nearly new car with 11,000 miles, and Ford had to put 2 new front tyres on it..)..thats not normal and sounds like the car has been abused to me.

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Lee1

Isn't the new tyres part of the Make It Like New promise? ie if the old ones had been kerbed too obviously or had a split or sidewall marks from hitting say a bit of road debris at speed? I drive very carefully but still can get tyres damaged by just using a motorway with something discarded on it hitting my tyre.

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Roly93

The car had done 11900, but Ford Direct change the tyres in they are down to 5mm I think. So this is feasible on a FWD car without there being any sinister reason.

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Lee1

I do hope you're getting some sort of compensation for this hassle you had with the balancing. At the very least a nice heavy set of car mats or a free oil service, I would have thought.

Ford Focus - Wheel Balance - Roly93

I'm just glad its sorted, and I dont have to be hanging around their garage and on the phone for hours...And I'm now 100% happy with the car, having done over 1000 miles in it.