I never thought I'd see the day but my dad has gone and bought a new car.
The scrappage deal proved too tempting so he has ditched his reliable M reg Rover 216 and also part ex'd the 2005 Fabia for a Hyundai I30. He's gone for the 1.4 petrol hatchback.
I always thought he'd run the old Rover into the ground but a shiny new car with 5 year warranty was too big a carrot to resist.
He picks it up on Thursday having ordered it a fortnight ago so at least he hasn't had to wait long.
Lets hope it proves as reliable as the Rover as I suspect he'll keep this one forever.
Goodbye Rover...sniff, its been nice knowing you
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>>> Goodbye Rover...sniff, its been nice knowing you <<<
Pity he didn't spend his money on a British built car.
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...Pity he didn't spend his money on a British built car...
What choice is there?
Honda Civic - too expensive.
Toyota Auris (if they make them at Derby) - also dearer than a Hyundai.
Nissan Qashqai/Note - neither is a medium sized hatchback.
Nope, the i30 is as near to a direct replacement for a Rover 216 as you will get.
Hyundai/Kia is rapidly becoming the new Rover - good quality. good value cars that appeal to the private motorist.
Edited by ifithelps on 02/02/2010 at 09:28
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"Hyundai/Kia is rapidly becoming the new Rover "-
Well thats them written off my new car list then.
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>>> What choice is there? <<<
None! built in GB to match to match the price of the Koreans alas.
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Whilst I don't mean to question the gentleman's purchase, it's a fine car and excellent value, what would the nearest price Astra be? I think that's the most comparable model built in Britain, and it would be very disappointing if it were significantly more expensive than the i30.
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The cheapest i30 is around £12k whereas the Astra is a few burgers under £16k ... before deals.
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£4k would probably do it for me too.
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You can't really compare prices before deals. Buyacar quote 10,693 for an Astra 1.4i SXI 5 dr which I suspect is cheaper than you will get an i30 and the Astra would be my preference by a long chalk.
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DTD actually do the basic i30 for 10,310 so slightly cheaper than an Astra but not 4,000 cheaper!
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rapidly becoming the new Rover - good quality. good value cars that appeal to the private motorist.
wow that is a new Rover, its nothing like the old one.
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The old 200 series were good motors AE, especially the 1600 versions.
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Don't want to divert this thread or kick off the Rover debate once again but the statement that the 200's were good motors can't go unchallenged.
They were awful. Had a 216 VDP 'pocket limousine'. Absolute shed appalling built quality always breaking down and had a bonkers braking system. The pads were not pinioned and floated in the housing. When about half worn you hit the brakes and the pads whooshed out the back end!
Another awful car in a long line of shockers.
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I'd have responded sooner to these posts but my pc was playing silly beggars!
I know my dad feels no brand loyalty and certainly isnt that blinkered that he'd go out of his way to buy a car made in GB just because 'it's made in GB'. The same goes for when he buys a toaster or washing machine. These are all made in the far east or Yugoslovakia and a car is no different to white goods. Its a product designed to do a job and it certainly doesnt tug at the heart strings when wondering where it was made!
Nope, his decision was purely economical and based upon the warranty issue too. If a few more car makers offered the same levels of belief in their own products and offered a half decent aftersales service perhaps they wouldn't be playing second fiddle to the far eastern makers and we'd still have a decent genuine British car maker.
Regarding his Rover...it never let him down. Maybe he was lucky or maybe it was a good product. There's good n bad in all makes isnt there?
in fact my brother has an old 216 3 door GTi and my Dad also owned 2 others and none of them were ever a problem. Simple, easy to drive and cheap to maintain.
Edited by Mick Snutz on 02/02/2010 at 14:16
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Nope his decision was purely economical and based upon the warranty issue too. If a few more car makers offered the same levels of belief in their own products and offered a half decent aftersales service perhaps they wouldn't be playing second fiddle to the far eastern makers and we'd still have a decent genuine British car maker.
I could not agree more.
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By interesting co-incidence, my parents have finally gone and bought a new car.
Honda Jazz, in fact.
I thought it was British made. Was I wrong?
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Still can't fault the Mitsi Colt AMT on scrappage.
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>>rapidly becoming the new Rover - good quality. good value cars that appeal to the private motorist.<<
Shame Rover didnt put out something like the I30 in 2003 - may have done very well if they had.
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Tyro - re the Jazz -
If they bought it new, and recently, it'll have been made in good old Swindon.
Edited by Avant on 03/02/2010 at 23:33
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Honda Jazz in fact. I thought it was British made. Was I wrong?
You are correct. Since late 2009 all European Jazz (Jazzess? Jazz's?) are made at the Swindon Plant.
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Thanks for that. There is something ironic about that. For most of my childhood, my parents had BMC cars. And now they are driving British once again. But in this case, the fact that the car was British made had nothing to do with their choice.
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Well today he brought the new car home.
"What's it like then, Dad. Are you pleased with it?".
"Well its a car isn't it?" he replies.
Apparantly he is missing his old Rover already bless 'im.
He's not too impressed with the radio. Says music sounds fine but when anyone's talking, the pronunciation of any word with S in it makes it sound fuzzy and crackly. I think I know what he means.
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That's called second harmonic distortion.
Normally can be compensated by turning down the treble control.
Some audio buff's claim its because of cheap components.....
good luck with the new car btw.
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last night I went over to see him and the car and, you're right Diddy, the bass, mid-range and treble controls were all set to maximum (10).
After a bit of adjustment it sounded fine. I then plugged in my mp3 player and he was even more impressed. So impressed he now wants to buy one.
I'll have to show him how to download stuff to it and record from his cd collection mind you.
The sound quality is impressive and better than the Clarion in my Pug 406.
I am now jealous.
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...he bass, mid-range and treble controls were all set to maximum (10)...
Quality audio components have no tone controls, or a bypass switch.
A lot of car tone controls run from -5 to 0 to 5+.
To achieve the sound as broadcast/recorded, best to set everything to 0 and only change it if you really, really, feel you absolutely really want to.
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