Ed V you obviously dont remember the sierra based P100 pickup that was made in sarth africa?
The metal was worse than cardboard,i have never seen such horrible stuff, even filler didnt stick properly.
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They were very good for taking the MIL out for run on a rainy day but they were a Rolls compared to an FSO pick up.
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Ed V you obviously dont remember the sierra based P100 pickup that was made in sarth africa?
Probably cos they've all rusted away!
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yes mss1tw if there were any about today they would be collecters material
collect the fallen off exhaust today......
the gearbox tommorrow
etc
infederandom
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yes mss1tw if there were any about today they would be collecters material collect the fallen off exhaust today......
:-D Excellent
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The Sierra-based P100 was built in Portugal - and there are many still around. [Check flea-bay.]
There was never a true replacement; my '89 TD [with a few retro-fit extras and a bit of a restoration job 7 years ago] is still the only thing that can stand up to two weeks' hammering from Highland single-tracks and then cruise arrow-straight down a blustery M6 for 12 hours at 90 carrying half a ton of rock.
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yep should have said cortina shaped
i shall do 30 lines
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i shall do 30 lines
You go careful now. That sounds like risking an overdose to me...
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The original P wheels would look much better.
I've just looked again and the Pirelli wheels are included in the auction, so you could bung those MIM things straight back on ebay. I bet it goes well with 152bhp..
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Fabulous cars. My old boss had one with a 2.0 engine conversion and some suspension fettling by GTI Engineering. Apart from an ugly bodykit, it was a brilliant car. Went like absolute stink, and handled like a go-kart.
I think it made about 140 bhp which doesn't sound much, but when you consider that the 112 bhp 1.8 was clocked to 60 in eight and a bit seconds, you realise just how quick it was.
I find it incredible that 140 bhp or even 112bhp was once enough to be exciting in a Golf. It's not all progress.
Cheers
DP
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I nearly bought one nearly new from the place opposite the Peugeot dealer at the Half Way W-O-T / Hersham (had a branch in Sunbury too, name escapes me), cant think when it was though I remember is was £10,500 and I remember being relieved that I hadnt bought it because I saw a similar one only a few months later for around £7,500.
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Whatever the faults with SA manufacturing, I cannot believe that £4,500 for a 25 year old original is better value than £10,000 all in for a new import.
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IIRC the South African Golfs are 5 door only.
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Sorry if my post sounded a bit negative Ed I agree that Golf is a bit steep at £4.5k. A mate of mine bought one 2 years ago for about £2.5k that is just about rust free and he commutes in it daily, its been very reliable AFAIK.
Have you looked at shipping websites, this one has info on VAT, SVA test, etc:
www.kingstown-shipping.co.uk/car-main.htm
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A friend of mine has inherited an original British example. It needs a bit of attention but is fundamentally sound. Its worst fault to a modern driver, and its owner, is its heavy steering at low and parking speeds. Do these South African ones have power steering?
I know that when she passes her driving test she will want a softer, more old-babe-friendly drive, and am terrified that she will just throw the GTI away by part-exing it or letting some local mechanic take it off her hands. I have told her to let me know what she is offered for it before parting with it.
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Very retro driving experience. I can understand nostalgia - love it in some ways myself, it's who we were, when we were young etc. But cool? Good driving experience? I've driven one on the early Mk1 gti contraptions - noisy, skittish, uncomfortable, tinny, plasticky & (by modern standards) power in all the wrong areas - and by now, probably, essentially knackered. Really, just middle-aged adolescant's toys.
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I saw a Mark one Golf bodyshell on the back of a low loader today in Glasgow. It was white and obviously had just been built / restored. No wheels, axles or anything!
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driven one on the early Mk1 gti contraptions - noisy skittish uncomfortable tinny plasticky & (by modern standards) power in all the wrong areas - and by now probably
I drove one of the first batch r/h drive mk1 GTIs round on a track day. It was a stunning bit of kit, miles ahead of anythin on the road at the time.
well it was till I first needed the brakes in one almighty hurry and found it they had been left behind in Germany.
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As said above the South African models are 5 door only , and the styling around the rear pillar differs from the original. I can't imagine that the quality would be that great as this must be a budget motor for South Africa's poorer residents.
If you want a mk1 Golf GTI then get one , £3-4k should get something decent, though they are getting rarer by the day , as many went to meet their maker after rust in the fuel filler
pipe stuffed up the Bosch fuel injection system, and it made sense to scrap them rather than carry out expensive repairs.
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I'd also consider the MK2 version as you will get a better car for the money , 3 grand should get you a minter . Also a lot newer , still available until 1991 IIRC. These versions have come to be regarded a something of a classic after the fat and lifeless versions that followed. Especially in 16 valve form, which is a much quicker car than the MK1 ever was.
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You can't really call it a cool car today but it is a nice and genuine device, decently rapid even by modern standards. Like AE I don't think there's anything wrong with the power delivery. Press the pedal in the right gear and it really goes. You see restored examples being rowed along very briskly by Surrey baseball-cap wearers.
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I think they are cool if mint & preferably in black. An RAC guy Igot chatting to when he was attending my friend's golf, had just completed an Audi TT 225 1.8T engine drop into a mark 2 GTi, and he said it was a pretty terrifying drive!
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I was fortunate to own an early Mk1 (AUM 880X) which I ran for several years. It was the second favourite car I have ever owned and looked fantastic in a metallic green.... I bought it within hours of being advertised in the Y Post, from an Army chap who was recalled at short notice for manoeuvres with BAOR. Only a 1.6 engine with 105bhp, but I never stopped grinning during my entire time of ownership. The only downside was that at the time they were only available UK supplied in red, black or white so mine stood out like a sore thumb.
If I were to drive it today it would probably be a huge disappointment....although I would happily take that risk!!
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In a word YES they're cool IMHO ;-)
But for me personally the insurance is a killer @ group 15-16 if im right.
My ZR has 105bhp & it's insurance group is 7/8.
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looked at a mk1 golaf today,what a depressing picture,one look under the bonnet and i dropped it quick
nostalgia aint all its cracked up to be
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I know this goes against all that is held to be dear and true among car enthusiasts, but I have never "got" what was so good about mkI Golfs. Even when they were new and current, I wasn't exactly bowled over. Here follows the detail of my heresy;
What did I miss? What was so special about them? I didn't think that they handled particularly well, I thought the controls were excessively weighted, and there was too much friction. I found the interior cabin oppressive and dark. Under the bonnet, I didn't see anything that was in any significant way better to an Astra (similar materials, similar suspension layouts, similar body styles (although better sound quality engineering on the Golf), similar electrical equipment and wiring, remarkably similar engine layouts, poorer clutch and gearbox layout than the Astra)
In terms of the number that survive, is it because they were a better car?, or is it because they were a fashion statement that people were prepared to be more deviant about?; spending money on repairs and maintenance when the equivalent Ford or Vauxhall would have gone without.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that they were good cars, but not THAT good!
Number_Cruncher
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Far from too much friction, I always thought that there was far too little...
The brakes on the RHD variants were verging on the dangerous - there's little fun in driving a car fast if you have no faith in it's ability to stop!
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Yes, I forgot to mention the brakes - I think the underbonnet layout of both Golfs and Astras makes much more sense in LHD form, there's plenty of room above the gearbox for a well sized servo, without having to either squash one in behind the cylinder head, or even worse, use a torsion bar or (horror of Vauxhall horrors**) a bellcrank linkage between the pedal and the servo/master cylinder.
Being a bit tight in the braking department was a bit of a VW thing then, with many lower spec models like Polos being unassisted. But, I would rather that than having too much servo action, like many Renaults, that gives a false sense of the capability of the braking system.
Number_Cruncher
** Although to be fair, you could also find a truly hideous linkage between pedal and master cyclinder in early 80's 5 series BMWs.
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