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Vauxhall Agila rear brake valve. - Petel
Further to the posting on the thread started by KathyD, can anyone please advise if the valve in the rear braking system which compensates for the weight of back seat passengers and luggage, is a separate item or would you have to break into the hydraulics to remove/service it?
Thank you.
Vauxhall Agila rear brake valve. - Number_Cruncher
Yes, it's in the hydraulic line, so the rear brakes will need bleeding if you remove it. Also, if there is the means to adjust the tension on the spring, be careful to put this back exactly as you found it - mark and/or measure before removing the valve. It's very easy to put these back on incorrectly so that the rear brakes lock up during a hard braking application, which is very dangerous, and what the valve is supposed to prevent!

Having said all of that, if it is siezed so badly that you need to remove it, then you would be better off fiting a new one. After which, you need to set up the spring adjustment - usually, this is specified by taking brake pressure measurements upstream and downstream of the valve with a given load in the vehicle. It's not easy to set correctly at home! Despite this, I haven't actually seen any garage actually using the gauges to do this work, but that's another issue!

Number_Cruncher
Vauxhall Agila rear brake valve. - LeePower
New ones from the manufacturer should already come pre set.

Also simple things as lowering the rear suspension upset the valve & can cause the wheels to lock up when they shouldn't.

Glad I aint got one, mines electronic ;-)
Vauxhall Agila rear brake valve. - Number_Cruncher
>>New ones from the manufacturer should already come pre set.

I don't see how they can do that. There is usually some adjustment that allows you to tension the spring in-between the body and the suspension - there's no way that this distance can be known exactly enough to be pre-set.

To be clear, I'm not on about adjusting anything in the valve itself - only how the valve is actuated, by the relative motion of vehicle body and the suspension.

Number_Cruncher


Vauxhall Agila rear brake valve. - bell boy
there is usually a sticker somewhere giving the dimensions if a mechanical brake compensating valve is fitted
Vauxhall Agila rear brake valve. - Number_Cruncher
Yes, sometimes, there is a way to load up the vehicle and set a dimension, or sometimes, a graph of input vs output pressure is given.

In either case, I don't think it's something for a DIYer to be looking at - the potential to leave the vehicle in an unsafe state is too real. If you have ever experienced rear axle lock-up in an emergency situation, it's not something you wish to repeat!

Number_Cruncher
Vauxhall Agila rear brake valve. - Petel
My thanks to Number Cruncher, Lee Power and Oldman for the confirmation and the warnings. This is one that ( if it should arrise ) I will leave to the dealer, as it is my sisters car.
Many thanks.
Vauxhall Agila rear brake valve. - Herr Minger

Hopefully this will bump the thread back up as I have a similar enquiry. My mothers Agila 55plate has just failed the MOT on a 3.7.A.2 (n/s works slower than o/s) rear brake application uneven. The car has been garaged most its life and has 18000 on the clock. The rear brakes are in very good condition with no leaks in the slave cylinders. The handbrake is well adjusted and works very well with minimal effort ( wasn't an issue in the MOT anyway) I have a look at both rear brakes yesterday and could see nothing wrong and for good messure I bled the brake in question. Braking overall is very good and so I am stumped as to the cause of the MOT failure.

Vauxhall Agila rear brake valve. - gordonbennet

I have a look at both rear brakes yesterday and could see nothing wrong and for good messure I bled the brake in question. Braking overall is very good and so I am stumped as to the cause of the MOT failure.

Not leaking doesn't mean the slave cyls are not seized or stuck, indeed with the low mileage over the years i suspect something sticking is whats going wrong here.

I usually get an assistant to press the brake pedal gently whilst i hold one shoe tight with a screwdriver, you should see each shoe move in turn like this as its respective slave cyl moves out.

Might be an idea to roughen the shoes and drum surface up with some emery cloth, then give the car a few fast runs and some heavy braking on a quiet road get brakes nice and hot, i expect an Italian tune up would do the whole car some good anyway.

Also, check the self adjusters are working correctly, tightening up the handbrake cable a tad too much might be preventing self adjustment from working correctly.

Edited by gordonbennet on 30/07/2014 at 19:18