It'd be expensive with that much mileage on it even if it was a VR6. But an old diesel?
Agree with yokel - far too overpriced.
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12 months ago I paid £1700 for a 96 Golf TD Estate with full service history, etc and 109,00miles on the clock. Would be worried if he said that the timing belt was changed at 134,000 as on mine (n reg) its a 60,000 mile interval...other than that id say its vastly over priced...
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Why is that though?? I mean just checked ebay and most audi's (vw engines) with nearing 200k mileage can go for £3-4k!!!!!!!
It's in great nick, leather and aircon. Surely 150k doesn't mean anything? By what i've seen on the service booklet it was definately a company car- it racked up the miles quite quickly.
I mean i'd understand if i was comparing a vw- citroen but a vw and audi is basically the same thing surely?
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Why is that though??
Because that's what the market says. If you're happy paying that price then fine. Personally, I'd listen to the man who posted before you. But it's your money.
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Not an exact match, but I sold my ten year old 1.9D Vento (unfashionable Golf with boot) for £450 (175000 miles) eighteen months ago to a friend's daughter as a uni hack. She's put plenty of miles on it and had no trouble. It's still sound, bodywork rusting around wheel arches, but that's about it. I think there was a thread from HJ about bore wear on VW TDIs, that maybe didn't affect normally aspirated diesels. £2k sounds a lot for this one.
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Its advertised as having aircon (which they think gives them the right to wildly over-price it), but does it work as in it blows ice cold?
This price can't be far off encroaching on bog-standard (i.e. 1.4S) mark 4 golfs?
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Is this your car ?
I notice that you have previously asked questions about a mk3 golf tdi which makes me think that this might be a valuation on your own car. That would explain why you dont seem to like the answers about it being overpriced (it is).
A golf isnt worth as much as an audi for all sorts of reasons. Partly just badges, but the used car market is a market. A car is worth what someone will pay. Why should anyone pay £2000 for a 10 year old golf with 150K miles on it?
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At 152K, last serviced at 134K, thats 18K since the last oil change, 8k more than VW recommend and 12k more than anyones sensible would leave it, its probably a bit of a smoker and there are better ones out there, offer a low price or walk away...
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To answer your Q - it's a VW, not an Audi, and 200k 96P A4s don't go for £3-4 k anyway. The fact that a plonker pays £xxx on Ebay means just that - he's a plonker.
And to repeat - the leather and AC are worth nothing on a car of that age - they'll help sell it, and help a seller hold his price, but the buyer should discount them to zero. He's buying basic transport at that price, and what he needs is reliability above all else.
Offer £1,100, be prepared to go up by £75-£100 if the rubber is good, and then walk.
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No mark this isn't my car- my car is a mk3 golf TD
The TDI is for my father- its an auto as he's got bad back problems. The air con is ice cold works on all settings. yes.
so its all down to the badge!
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Auto would fetch a premium as there's not many about.
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A friend of mine has just sold his R reg Golf CL Tdi estate, with 2 owners, FSH and very clean inside, 110k genuine miles,for £1100.00.
I advertised it for him in the local free supermarket ads at £1200.00.
All parties were happy at this price.
£2000 seems a joke, umless you are the seller and get near this amount
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Ridiculous. What we have here is a DECADE old, 150,000 mile, bog standard TWO GENERATION OLD Volkswagen Golf. A cheap disposable hatchback and nothing more. It is not a special car, it is not interesting, it is merely a starship mileage old Golf. It is worth £500 and not a penny more.
If you pay £2000 for this car you are absolutely insane.
It will look like a £500 banger, becuase it is a £500 banger. Pay £500 for it, it look elsewhere, cracked, worn horrible leather interior notwithstanding.
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Ridiculous. What we have here is a DECADE old, 150,000 mile, bog standard TWO GENERATION OLD Volkswagen Golf. A cheap disposable hatchback and nothing more. It is not a special car, it is not interesting, it is merely a starship mileage old Golf. It is worth £500 and not a penny more. If you pay £2000 for this car you are absolutely insane. It will look like a £500 banger, becuase it is a £500 banger. Pay £500 for it, it look elsewhere, cracked, worn horrible leather interior notwithstanding.
ill have 2 please at £500 a shot.........
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And what would you do with two banger Golfs witih 150k on them? Drive to the local health club thinking you are posh becuase you have a 'Peoples Car'?
I really dont understand why some people seem to think VW's are some sort of prestige marque. Err, not at all. You only need to sit in a Mk3 Golf to realise it is an old hatchback and nothing more. It doesn't even handle with sparkle like the Mk1 and Mk2. It's not old enough to be a classic, not new enough to be worth paying proper money for.
Prestige VAG? That'll be Audi. A Golf is merely a Focus rival with delusions of grandeur.
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its got all the toys that people want and its 134,000 miles i would wack one in autotrader at £995 and sell the other one off the same advert and be in the pub sat afternoon with my feet up
job done...............
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If the car is tidy and its auto with air con and leather, it will be of interest to a certain range of people for whom paying an extra £x00's is worth it to find the car they really want. Mind you, it still seems over the top. The auto will add about £250 to the manual value? Offer £1250 and see where you get to.
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A Golf is merely a Focus rival with delusions of grandeur
Resale say's you dont know what you are talking about!
I bet you have a ford. ( i do).
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Autotrader:
97 1.9 diesel, 122K, £850
97 1.9CL TDi, 101K, £1000
96 1.9 TD, 91K, £1150
97 1.9 TDi GL, 105K, £1500
So it looks a tad overpriced...
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Not only is this over-priced but they're not good cars IMO. Build quality was poor compared to the MK2, they can also rust quite badly - you need to get underneath. Also there's that TDi engine, generally reliable and economical but makes enough racket to wake the dead.
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I would say that Oldman is pretty spot on. Its worth about 900 quid in the trader.
However, what you can sell it for is not neccessariily what its worth to you. You don't wan tto get too knottted up on what other people would pay.
If you want it, if you compared it to alternative examples, if you're not buying it to make a profit, then pay what its worth to you. Perhaps £2,000 is pushing it, but I've paid well over the odds for something because I wanted it an dthey were scarce,
Just remember that what you're making is not a great financial deal, tis just one that emotionally suits you.
If you're trying to make a financial bargain, then I would go back to Oldman's note again.
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but I've paid well over the odds for something because I wanted it an dthey were scarce,>>
My dad recently paid a little over book price for a 2002 Focus estate, he was after a 2.0 petrol, manual, Ghia with climate and leather, the car ticked all the boxes, he liked the colour, he decided it was what he wanted and it could be a while before another one came along, he is happy. However he paid 10% over book max, that Golf is between 50 and 100% over priced it seems.
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I agree with most people on here - £2000 is way over priced. For a 10 year old car. Trust me - i own a Mk3 Golf, and at that age and mileage there are all sorts of things which may need replacing very soon.
I sold a Mk3 Golf Driver 1.8 for £2350 about 3 years ago with a lot less mileage and I thought I'd done well.
For what its worth, a leather interior with leather door cards sold seperatly is worth £400 - £500 depending on a) condition b) if its heated. A standard cloth interior could be picked up for next to nothing.
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Right so in other words it is overpriced. The seller tells me its worth £1400 without the extras and aircon and leather add quite a lot of value. He wont budge from that price so will have to look elsewhere. Aircon and leather are a must for me, not bothered about any other extra!! Not many golfs about for 2 grand with those extras, and I certainly dont want french cars!
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German French or Mongolian is irrelevant at this price/mileage/car type.
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Indeed, and condition is everything. If you are getting a MK3 then I strongly suggest you put some old clothes on and crawl underneath. These cars can rust underneath quite badly despite looking immaculate on top.
If you are not too bothered about image (and if you're considering a VW then I guess you're not ;-) ), then you could consider a Rover 400 diesel. Look out for the SLDi model, has leather and aircon plus all the usual toys. It also has the tough L Series turbo diesel engine that is a match for these older generation TDi's. Or you could look for a post 1995 200 (bubble shape) which also uses the same engine. Or a bit bigger is the 600 as well. The L Series is a very tough and reliable engine and unlike these latest CR diesels doesn't cost an arm, leg and foot to repair.
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As an alternative, how about a T reg Octavia TDi SLX with "only" 125,000 miles. The SLX gives you climate and alloys and other stuff, and it's based on the Mk4 Golf, but with a much bigger boot. 110 bhp too.
second hit on an Auto Trader search, up for sale for £1,990 at a dealer in Fishponds, Bristol.
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> Right so in other words it is overpriced. The seller tells me its worth £1400 without the extras and aircon and leather add quite a lot of value.
He's wrong, on both counts. He's 40% out on the base price, and a zillion% out on the extras. They are worth nil.
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He's (seller) wrong, on both counts. He's 40% out on the base price, and a zillion% out on the extras.
He's also probably hoping that if he holds his ground you'll want the car bad enough to pay the asking price. And if you want it badly enough, fair enough, its your choice.
"It has SH, last serviced at 134k, cambelt changed then too."
I'd be surprised if the service interval on these was more than 10,000 miles. Which means its missed a service - and makes the deal look even less attractive, to my mind at least.
Also, have a close look at what the CBCB has to say on Mk3 autoboxes!
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It has SH not FSH so it probably has got a patchy history. Its amazing how many people (on ebay etc) claim a car has FSH because it has stamps in the right places (but no invoices to back them up)!
Extras do add to the s/h price, if they're the right extras. Sat-nav, Climate/air con and leather are ones that do, things like parking sensors, mud flaps etc don't.
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We are talking about a one grand car here, not a £20k schmoozer. It's worth money if It does all the things a one grand car should do. The AC could pack up any minute, and will cost more than the car is worth to fix, so it's worth nil. The leather might be OK, but it's still not worth a dime to our buyer of bangers, who should just be looking at the suitability of the car to his (basic) needs.
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Are mk3 golfs really "bangers"??! lol
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Are mk3 golfs really "bangers"??
yep
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All three of my Golfs were as reliable as old bangers and not one of them ever got to their first MOT before I got shut.
Does the guy who wants £2000 for this heap still believe in Santa Claus? Does he still believe the world is flat?
The words "cloud", "cuckoo" and "land" spring to mind!!!
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Are mk3 golfs really "bangers"??! lol
Of course they are, what else do you call something introduced in 1991 and which has been out of production for almost 10 years?
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Sony - are you and the seller of this geriatric piece somehow in league to persuade the more gullible of this country that what was a fairly average car in its day (and not a touch on the Mk1 or the Mk2) is to be elevated to the motoring peerage in its dotage, and revered and admired for reasons that are beyond the rest of us?
Do tell us.
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sony if you want it that much and are happy to pay then just buy it, seriously.
I don't think you will find any one else who would though. At least, not this side of the Shady Acres perimeter fence.
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My brother had a Golf GTi 8v on a K plate (so mark 3) and he really liked it. And he had it from new as a company vehicle. Except when it rained a lot which meant for instance on a motorway the engine could shut-down and not restart. So coast onto hard shoulder and get recovered. Lots.
Once on the way from Manchester to South Wales, got recovered about half the distance and the local VW dealer there (once car taken there next day ) said there was a problem with Golf MKIII's and later ones had a metal plate under engine stopping road spray getting into electrics. ie. a big design fault.
He tried on many occasions to reject it on safefy ground but no luck.... lease/company car. He moved to California (same employer) before the lease ended but don't think that was a factor :-)
So my point.... when did they fit the redesigned plates under the engine? And what about this car. Chris' was a nightmare.
Also Posted elsewhere on forum to say my Passat needed a new turbo on delivery. My Golf MIV 1.8 GTi needed a new gearbox from new! So at 152k miles what would you believe is reliable????
Have enjoyed using the old VW adverts about squeaks to get problems sorted though :-) Okay that is the perception but that is how we buy 'em.
Rob
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My old banger sailed through its MOT yesterday.
In two and a half years its had front discs and pads £30, wishbone bushes£10, 4 tyres£140, centre and back box£70, a second hand headlamp £20 and an offside track rod £80 (fitted). Vag cambelt kit was £80.
Golf TDi estate S plate paid £2700 with 108K miles two and a half years ago and gives 50mpg everytime
Currently has a broken OSF window motor, a wobbly aircon pump clutch assembly (but its ice cold) and is a little hard to start (but it does)
Banger, nail, heap, whatever. Gets me where I want to go and its enough for me
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