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£3k car to do all... - y2k+4
You've got £3,000. You've got a regular commute of an hour motorway, forty-five minutes country roads, and half hour through town so not just handling but ride is important too. It's cheap-to-run, and fits for four/five people with a decent sized boot. You need the basic luxuries, a/c, CD, elec wins etc...

What 3 cars would you choose for you shortlist?
£3k car to do all... - Xileno {P}
Mondeo
Mondeo
Mondeo
£3k car to do all... - edisdead {P}
Primera
£3k car to do all... - CJay{P}
Vectra
£3k car to do all... - CJay{P}
On reflection, perhaps you could get something like this
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for just under £3k?
£3k car to do all... - markengland
Don't get a Vectra whatever you do, it's the worst car I've ever owned and the only car I've ever regretted buying (53-reg 1.8 16V Club). Not even 3 years old yet and has been back to the dealer several times, each time a different problem. Uncomfortable car, appalling local dealer and I have lost all faith in it whatsoever (broken down on us twice). Will be sold long before its 3rd birthday when the warranty is up!
£3k car to do all... - Hugo {P}
Xantia, preferebly diesel, and preferebly the HDi?

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£3k car to do all... - 659FBE
At this price, better not an HDi. These engines are developing a reputation for the self-destruction of their fuel systems due to metal swarf - repair on an old vehicle is uneconomic.

The Xantia is an absolute bargain if you can fix the hydraulics (not difficult) and if you stick to the older pre-common rail diesel. Galvanised outer panels, good self-levelling ride and a fine compromise of performance and economy with the old diesel are bonuses. Buy a multimeter in order to keep some of the electrical system working.

659.
£3k car to do all... - Dynamic Dave
Don't get a Vectra whatever you do, it's the worst car I've ever owned ....


Each to their own I suppose. Still doesn't stop many many others from buying a Vectra and having none, or very few problems at all though. Me included.
£3k car to do all... - Aprilia
Can only be......Primera!
£3k car to do all... - 659FBE
With an interpretation of the annual mileage from the opening post, together with the budget constraints given, a diesel would be a very strong contender. Japanese diesels of the vintage that £3k would now buy were pretty bad news - otherwise I'd agree with you.

659.
£3k car to do all... - CJay{P}
That car fetched £2625.
£3k car to do all... - Avant
Let me answer your question, Y2K, and suggest a shortlist of 3:

Skoda Octavia TDI - these last a long time, as many taxi-drivers will tell you
Nissan Primera - not sure how good the diesel is
Ford Mondeo - can you get the newer diesel (TDCI as opposed to TDDI) for £3,000? Possibly only with a high mileage - itselfnot a bad thing of they've been gentle motorway miles.
£3k car to do all... - rugbyleague1
avensis!
£3k car to do all... - MichaelR
Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X. Yes, you can all groan, but here is a list of reasons why they rock:

a) Great on the Motorway. Over 40mpg, cruise control, comfortable heated leather seats, air conditioning, 6 CD changer and a nice trip computer to play with.

b) Great on the A roads - reasonably decent 2.0 16v powerplant, class leading handling.

c) Great value - £3k gets an absolute minter of a W/X plate. Even £2k gets a decent one, you can even find P/R plate ones for a grand

d) Loaded with kit. Other than stuff like Xenons and nav, if you can think of it, it probably has it. Climate, cruise, leather, electric seats, etc..

e) Reliable - dependable cars that rarely break down and if something does go wrong it's usually cheap to fix.

f) Most people think they are dull - this means nobody will nick it, and nobody else wants to buy it so its cheap.

I wouldn't have any other sub 3k car. It's perfect student transport ;)
£3k car to do all... - MichaelR
Oh, I had a Xantia. Liked that also, it was a great car but I think my Mondeo is much better.
£3k car to do all... - SpamCan61 {P}
>>not just handling but ride is important too.

On that basis I'd say Vectra rather than Mondeo or Primera
£3k car to do all... - Blue {P}
I'd agree with Michael on this one, no matter how much of a groan that may induce amongst other backroomers!

Michael, I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but have you still got plans to sell your Mondy this year? If so, when's it likely to be? Like I say, I don't want to hi-jack the thread so feel free to e-mail me if you like, just if you're selling at the right time then I could be interested...
Blue
£3k car to do all... - MichaelR
Michael, I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but have you
still got plans to sell your Mondy this year? If so,
when's it likely to be? Like I say, I don't want
to hi-jack the thread so feel free to e-mail me if
you like, just if you're selling at the right time then
I could be interested...


I'm still aiming to replace it with a 530i provided I don't get irrationally tempted into ST200 purchase, yes.

As for whether I'd sell it, I really don't know. The provlem is that it had 130,000 miles and is V reg so financially its virtually worthless - after the effort I've put into maintaining and improving it I'd hate to part with it for a paltry sum, so I may end up keeping it.

Back on topic, if ride is a concern it's certainly no reason to discount Mondeo. It does not ride harshly - I came from a Citroen Xantia, a car reknowned for exceptional ride quality and whilst it was better, I would be wrong to say I've ever thought the ride on the Mondeo was anything other than good.
£3k car to do all... - cheddar
I am with MichaelR on this. You wont get a TDCi for £3k unless perhaps it has done 300k miles, a late Vectra is worthy of consideration.
£3k car to do all... - y2k+4
Now, perhaps it would be the prudent time to mention I currently run a Focus 1.6 LX (f/lift) on a 51-plate, with 106k. I'm considering exchanging it for several reasons:
a) small-ish boot.
b) Firm-ish ride.
c) Proving surprisingly costly to run, with just 34mpg average.
d) Engine/tyre noise on the motorway.
e) A little more pace (not much) and ABS would make me feel better...
f) All the above is live-able with, except maybe costs, but Dad keeps telling me that petrols won't last much beyond 110k, is this true? (I doubt him because we've naturally differing views on cars. He said I should've bought a 1.2 FIAT Brava a year ago instead, don't ask me why. Failing that his suggestion was a 99' Corolla).

But trouble is I don't want to sacrifice it's handling, safety and general all-round ability.

And it would pretty much be a direct swap, I'm assuming the car is worth around £3k, having been worth £3,800 this time last year?

RE: Mondeo. The only Mondeo I would possibly consider is an early current-shape 2.0 TDDi. What is this engine like, is it really THAT inferior to the common-rail TDCI?
£3k car to do all... - Xileno {P}
Your Dad is wrong, a petrol engine provided it has been properly maintained and not abused will do many more miles than 110K.
What about an early Focus diesel?
£3k car to do all... - y2k+4
I tried the TDDi engine in the Focus (a 1.8 I believe). I didn't like it. It was loud (and not as nice a noise as the 1.6), slower, and I just generally didn't like it.

I'm glad to hear you think the Focus engine will last longer...I suspected as much as he's been critical of the Focus since I bought it calling it noisy, harsh-riding and over-rated. He particularly hated the gearbox, which I consider one of it's best features...
£3k car to do all... - y2k+4
I should add, I would still consider cheaper-to-run alternatives if they're out there...
£3k car to do all... - SpamCan61 {P}
Your Dad is wrong, a petrol engine provided it has been
properly maintained and not abused will do many more miles than
110K.

Hear hear...my track record over the last few (8) years:-

Carlton 3 litre - written off at 194K, still going strong & using no oil when I bent it.

cavalier mk3 1.8 - pensioned off at 196K due to coolant hoses splitting , HGF at 180K was the only signiifcant problem.

omega V6 - traded in for Zafira at 166K, still going strong & using no oil, did need cam cover gaskets changed.

omega 2 litre - pensioned off at 170K due to heater matrix failure, engine still OK if a bit rattly. needed oil strainer clearing out at 140K

£3k car to do all... - Blue {P}
As for whether I'd sell it, I really don't know. The
provlem is that it had 130,000 miles and is V reg
so financially its virtually worthless - after the effort I've put
into maintaining and improving it I'd hate to part with it
for a paltry sum, so I may end up keeping it.



Ho hum, fair enough, well if you change your mind mention it here first mate! I thought it was a nice looking car in the show us yer motor thread :-)


Blue
£3k car to do all... - Chuckie888
www.whatcar.com/news-special-report.aspx?NA=217350#

1. Honda Accord for all round excellence
2. Toyota Avensis for comfort and reliability
3. Nissan Primera for cheap thrills

In fact my 2001/51 Accord 43K FMDSH Accord 1.8S Auto/Tiptronic will be for sale when I get back from hols in 3 weeks!
£3k car to do all... - nutty_nissan
My suggestion is given how much time you will be spending in the car, you need something that is durable as well as reliable, and quiet too.

Go for the mini-cabbers favourite, Toyota Avensis. Boring and bland, but a good choice, IMHO.