My brother in-law had a car stolen recently, reported to the boys some three weeks ago with no leads or response.
Over the last two weeks the car has been seen being driven by youths and reported to the police as being seen in the area and giving details etc.
This week a family member found the car nearby and blocked the car from escaping and the boys informed of where the car was with the youths nearby.
After phoning some 13 times by various members of the family with a lack of response, the Boys in blue attitude was "its only a stolen car". The cars value is £4000.00 plus.
Whats the point in us paying comunity charges for them, and if a motorist does something wrong then you get a response and no wander our insurance are so high with a response like this.
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the boys informed of where thecar was with the youths nearby.
If only you had said they were chanting racial abuse, I'm sure the response would have been near instant.
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They probably won't accept that it has been stolen.
When I thought mine had been stolen a good few years back I was informed that it had actually been taken without my consent.
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Last August 3rd, at about mid-day, I was parked right behind a parked Fiesta that was in the process of being broken into by four lads. Some items were stolen (turned out to be wedding presents). I gave chase (in car) but they dodged down a narrow path.
I then asked some local girls, who were standing outside a shop drinking pop and had witnessed the break-in, if they knew the lads. I got full names of three and first name of fourth!.
Rang police with the information. Got a crime number. Then...nothing!
I had full descriptions and wrote it all down at the time - but no-one ever contacted me to ask anything.
In October a German co-worker came over to work here for a few months. He had his Mazda parked outside his rented house when he noticed a car had collided with it and the driver was looking at the damage. He ran out with a digital camera and photographed it all. The other driver made off very quickly! My German friend printed the pics and went straight to the main police station.
They basically told him to get lost!. A month after his visit he got a nice letter from police HQ saying they weren't going to do anything. His German insurers paid up about 1000Euro for the damage and he lost his NCB.
I'm afraid my opinion of the police is now very low. At best they are a form of social worker. At worst??? - I'd better not say!
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You people are stuck in the past, the Police exist now to enforce diversity and respond to breaches of equality of oppurtunity (neo-marxism), not deal with this sort of crime against property or person!
A few months ago, I reported a stolen brand new Royal Mail red motorbike dumped in my next door neighbours back garden (who was away at the time) they just said they'd inform Royal mail. I phoned them again 30 mins later to tell them it was now being ridden by children in a field opposite, they said "that's the end of that then!"
Prior to this I phoned them about a burglar walking along with stolen vcrs in a bag, rather than deal with him myself I decided to give the Police this on a plate, I followed the man in my car for two miles (he was on foot along the ring road) This took about 20 mins, and is 1 mins from the main Police station, They just said on the phone, "To be honest mate, we're all tied up!", In the end, I went into a very dodgy area of flats on foot and spooked him (as he had seen me two miles away just before), never seen him since.
USELESS, not the fault of individual officers, but the liberals who run them.
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Very pedantic of Plod, but the reason is that theft is dishonestly to appropriate goods belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the owner thereof. TWOCing is a separate offence because people used to plead that they were merely joyriding and intended to return the car to where they'd taken it from when they were unfortunately apprehended.
TWOCing means that the police/CPS no longer has to prove that the thief intended to deprive the owner of his property permanently.
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I read items like this with saddened heart for it is about a job that I spent my lifetime in. In any other profession/trade e.g. Brickie, after 50 years he can look back at his pieces of work and reflect what a great job he had done. His pride and joy still standing and as good as ever. Me, I joined with bright eyes and now after all my efforts, society is worse than when I joined so no comfort for me to read the above.
So whats gone wrong? With authorised strengths now nearly twice what it was when I was in Plod seems to have disappeared and service given below par. I've talked it over with my Ploddaughter
and the only conclusion I can come to together with personal experiences of trying to report matters/gain information is that when you report things you don't get Plod but a Civilian Support Worker dressed up like Plod to fool people. These people are working front desks/first point of contacts and whilst no doubt try their best, have not/do not have the training, dedication of the real thing. As Sooty says the real ones, in actual numbers are less and less and are the ones trying to do the job but burdened down with PC and Paperwork (still despite Wetblankets promises).
So peeps, strike back. You go into a shop and get bad service you complain don't you. Then do the same if you bad service from the Plod system. Then there will be no time for the garbage that S.O's/Home Office are churning out about what a wonderful professional Police Service we have and it just might bring them back to reality.
I pity MLC and Full Chat but admire that they still try. Me, Ploddaughter states, I wouldn't last five minutes in the job because of my non PC views.
If any of the cloth with silver on their caps and epaulettes are reading this then take on board the fact that you cannot run a Police Service like a business for you run dealing with failure.
Years ago you believed Shey when he sais you should and thats when the rot set in.
Phew.......must go for a lie down.
DVD
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Maybe it's time I actually put to use the domain name policingthepolice.org.uk which I paid the princely sum of £7 for last year when I had a bee in my bonnet about untaxed police vehicles, as a forum for exposing incompetence. Trouble is, in all walks of life, be it commercial or public services, shoddy service is accepted, and no one is shamed anymore.
To go against the grain of this thread, girlfriends car was stolen back in March, when keys were taken from her friends house. The police managed to recover it just over a week later, when a couple of officers on foot patrol spotted it and thought that it looked a bit out of place for the area it was parked in. They checked up on the PNC and realised it was stolen.
They could easily have walked on by, but something obviously aroused their suspicion. Now that's proper police work.
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"TWOCing is a separate offence because people used to plead that they were merely joyriding and intended to return the car to where they'd taken it from when they were unfortunately apprehended."
Well its nice to know that I can go for a joyride in one of their new motorway Range Rovers and their response will be "well its only a car, and we are far too busy to chase you".
I wonder what else can be TWOCed?. Maybe that gang who tried robbing the 40 million in gold from the airport can argue that they only planned on borrowing it and fully intended to return it after they had shown it off to their mates.
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The boys were informed that the youths were increasing in mumbers sat on the wall near the car in question chanting. And still had the response as given earlier.
Although these youths are known to the boys for this type of crime and having been seen driving the car by witnesses, they say nothing can be done unless they are caught in the car.
So what have they been taking phone calls for, of the where abouts and direction the car is travelling also the description of the people in the car.
No wonder no-one has any respect for them as they used to have years ago and its getting worse from my own experience on a another matter where it took them to respond one hour later after the incident took place and by then the trouble had moved on.
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I'm sorry,I just have to balance this discussion slightly.I (a well known big time villain in sarf london) got nicked recently and received my just desserts.The boys in blue mounted a large scale operation,with checkpoints and many bodies and I drove straight into their trap ,the culmination of months of intelligence gathering and good old fashioned coppering.I 'ates to say it but they've got me bang to rights,so you see it isn't all one-sided......what did i do? Silly me forgot to tell you.....driving without a seat belt,deserved everything i got (£30 fine)
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I expect people have had a range of response from the BiB. Here my polar opposites. Called when No. 1 daughter aged 18 hadn't returned home at a normal hour (by 3o'clock am) and we had immediate response from uniformed guys who visited within the hour, took details etc and went for search. Luckily she turned out to have gone awol to a friends - no harm done and called off any further fuss. Second event (motoring connection now follows) was a local scrote who was in the habit of selling small packages of a chemical substance to visiting toe-rags who called by Saxo, Escort etc. Said to local police, i say, don't think they have a licence for that kind of stuff and their many customers try to set new 0-60 record in the cul-de- sac. Police obligingly pull up one vehicle, to find it apparently clear. Offended toe-rag asks why, and Mr Plod says - oh, a neighbour grassed you. Toe-rag returns to local hooligan and announces amusing tale loudly. Terminal loss of confidence in local BiB follows.
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