Maybe it's impossible to know but taking an educated guess , with proposed ban on diesel/petrol by 2035, do people think used 4x4 prices for older bigger 4x4's such as a Toyota land cruiser are going to plummet which some analysts say or basically become too expensive to run as the government will do silly things with tax and insurance ?

Say for example you bought a 2006 landcruiser for £5k now would it be worth £500 in 5 years time

Fascinating answers awaiting !

Prepare to be fascinated.

Used diesel prices on the rise despite diesel bashing"

Whilst supply from the new diesel car market restricts volumes entering the used market, demand from consumers remains strong, according to Indicata. The result of restricted supply and consistent consumer demand has helped ensure that net used diesel prices are rising in three of the top five markets in Europe, the Autorola Group company says.

Average online B2C used diesel car prices were also up in France (3.1%) for Q2 2019 compared to the same period in 2018 with petrol prices falling by 6.4% in the first seven months of 2019.

I can still get back what I paid for our very low mileage Dacia Duster 4x4 diesel in Feb 2022 on a part exchange deal.

But I don't want a hybrid with a petrol lawn mower engine in the front thanks all the same.

So Dusty Bin will have to soldier on into the future.

Diesel - the fuel of the future that they cannot get rid of no matter how hard they try !!

Maybe it's impossible to know but taking an educated guess , with proposed ban on diesel/petrol by 2035, do people think used 4x4 prices for older bigger 4x4's such as a Toyota land cruiser are going to plummet which some analysts say or basically become too expensive to run as the government will do silly things with tax and insurance ?

Say for example you bought a 2006 landcruiser for £5k now would it be worth £500 in 5 years time

Hmm, I personally think it'll be the opposite. The ban is only for new cars so effectively with the supply and demand model for ICE cars if the supply dries up the demand will increase putting up prices - simple economics. ICE models are already vanishing right now with manufacturers wanting to avoid the fines so if you want a new car (not just 4x4) with a petrol/diesel engine in it buy it now.

Edited by Big John on 20/10/2024 at 08:40

Your educated guess is wrong. The planets are shifting, and there’s a hidden agenda at play. They want to criminalise drivers and push towards driverless cars. This means no more personal car ownership - you’ll lease vehicles from the big corporations.

Many tactics are being used to achieve this. The police won’t investigate stolen cars or use CCTV to track them down, yet they eagerly sift through thousands of dashcam videos to penalise motorists with fines or points. The ultimate aim is to declare humans too incompetent to drive, citing distractions like mobile phone use, and replace us with automated self-driving cars. While I'm not entirely opposed to this idea, I don’t want to be at the mercy of hedge funds in the US, which could control the market and bleed people dry with exorbitant prices. Sure they will be "cheap" in the beginning, but that is how you build a monopoly.

Some of the methods they’re using include 20mph speed restrictions, yellow box junction cameras, bus lane cameras, city emission zones, controlled parking zones (CPZ), school streets, low-traffic neighborhoods (LTNs), and cyclists with GoPros being given special status to report motorists. Cyclists demanding long sentences for road accidents. The recent changes to the highway code.Keyless entry, making it easy to steal cars. High insurance costs.

This slow trickle is going to make car ownership too expensive to sustain.

It’s a tricky one for sure! With the 2035 ban looming, it does feel like older 4x4s like a Land Cruiser might face a dip in value, especially if governments ramp up taxes and insurance costs to discourage petrol and diesel use. However, there's always the chance that demand might still hold up for off-road enthusiasts or people in rural areas where these vehicles remain practical.

If fuel and road taxes skyrocket, it could make them too costly to run for many, which would hit the resale market hard. That said, the Land Cruiser’s legendary reliability could give it an edge over other large 4x4s. I’d say it’s a gamble—might be worth £500 in a few years, or it could still hold decent value if supply tightens.